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« : May 10, 2013, 12:30:05 AM »


Barber's exit creates Bucs leadership void

Tom Jones, Times Sports Columnist 
 

Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:58pm
 



DANIEL WALLACE | Times
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Ronde Barber hung up his cleats, shed a few tears, said his goodbyes, then walked out of One Buc Place on Thursday afternoon.
 
He leaves behind 16 years' worth of great memories.
 
But it's not what he left behind that we're talking about today. It's what he is taking with him:
 
Valuable experience and irreplaceable leadership; 16 years' worth of games, practices, lessons and, of course, that Super Bowl championship.
 
Barber is the last player from that 2002 Super Bowl-winning team to leave, and now the Bucs must figure out how to move forward without the leadership the 38-year-old provided.
 
How exactly do the Bucs do that?
 
When coach Greg Schiano was asked that question, he paused for a moment, then smiled: "I think it's going to be very hard.''
 
Who, exactly, is supposed to fill that leadership void? Here's a look at some of those players who need to step up:
 
Gerald McCoy
 
Most everyone around One Buc agrees McCoy has to become the next leader, particularly if we're talking about the defense. Even Barber thinks so.
 
"I think it's very clearly Gerald McCoy,'' Barber said. "He's the guy that needs to assume that leadership role. Not only because he's one of the best players on the team but because he has the personality to handle it. Not everybody can handle a leadership role."
 
McCoy made strides last season, mostly because the defensive tackle stayed healthy. His trip to the Pro Bowl gives him a little more cache, and he always has done what good leaders do: accepts responsibility and takes accountability. The question remains whether he has the type of makeup that will allow him to confront teammates and raise his voice when the moment requires.
 
"I think Gerald McCoy can continue to develop in that area," Bucs general manager Mark Dominik said.
 
Darrelle Revis and Dashon Goldson
 

The two additions at defensive back arrive with solid credentials. Revis is a four-time Pro Bowl player and, when healthy, might be the best cornerback in football. Goldson is a two-time Pro Bowl corner. They might be the Bucs' two best players, especially on defense. They definitely have the most complete resumes. And their leadership qualities were considered before they were brought to Tampa Bay.
 
"Absolutely," Dominik said. "They are two really known leaders on their (last) football teams.''
 
But both are new, so are they able to establish themselves right away? Plus, Revis has a greater concern at the moment, which is returning from a knee injury.
 
Josh Freeman
 
Of course, you want your quarterback to be the leader on your club. Freeman, by all accounts, is a good teammate. But the issue with Freeman is he just hasn't accomplished enough yet. There's still a question about whether he will be here long term. He needs to work out his own issues before he suggests answers for others. It also would help if he used the word "I" a little more than "we."
 
David Joseph and Carl Nicks

Joseph goes back to the 2006 season, meaning he has been around longer than most in Tampa Bay. Nicks came over last season and has a Super Bowl ring. Both have respect in the locker room and the huddle. But both are offensive linemen. Their leadership could be limited by that.

Final analysis

 
There are other players who have the ability to lead. There's wide receiver Vincent Jackson, whose work ethic might be the best on the team. Dominik likes how linebackers LaVonte David and Mason Foster are developing as leaders.
 
"It's more about maturity," Dominik said. "Experience helps, but it's the maturity and how they lead."
 
Barber believes it will be McCoy, Jackson and Freeman.
 
"You just can't point a guy out and say, 'He's got to be it,' " Barber said. "But in my mind, those are the guys who should be in the position."
 
Schiano points out that, in many ways, Barber will continue to lead.
 
"He has left a legacy here," Schiano said. "He has shown a lot of guys how to be leaders, how to be a pro."
 
But the reality is Barber is now gone, and so is his leadership.
 
"Look, it's hard," Dominik said. "(Finding leaders) is something we've focused on. But, we do realize that it's a lot that is leaving the building."
 
The question now is: What's left behind?



 
Tom Jones can be reached at tjones@tampabay.com or (727) 893-8544 and can be heard from 6 to 9 a.m. weekdays on WDAE-AM 620.

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« #1 : May 10, 2013, 12:30:53 AM »

Revis.

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« #2 : May 10, 2013, 01:14:35 AM »

Yea Revis is 28 years old and arguably the best defensive player in the league if he can play the same. The team is going to be looking up to him, and I doubt he's just going to brush it off. Revis, McCoy, Vjax and Freeman are the leaders. I don't feel great about Freeman but the rest of them are going to be awesome



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« #3 : May 10, 2013, 01:36:09 AM »

Revis for sure.

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« #4 : May 10, 2013, 01:41:32 AM »

GMac for sure.

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« #5 : May 10, 2013, 03:36:04 AM »

this guy

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« #6 : May 10, 2013, 06:11:55 AM »

I don't think Barber was really much of a leader.   Great player, but not really a leader like Brooks, Sapp and Lynch were.

Fran Tarkenton, Hall of Fame QB said. \\\"Ive watched Freeman a lot. He just plays God-awful. Thats who you are. Its just a player being able to play or not play. Josh Freeman has proven to me that he cant play.\\\"

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« #7 : May 10, 2013, 07:27:17 AM »

what void?

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 I thought Lovie said he wanted quickness & speed, even at the QB position?

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« #8 : May 10, 2013, 07:38:03 AM »

McCoy actually has to do something first

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« #9 : May 10, 2013, 07:50:48 AM »

Players as leaders is overrated . If you are a great player who works hard, other guys will follow your lead , and you don't have to say a damn word. If you suck and you try to be "rah-rah" , the team will tune you out.


In short : we just need good players and the leadership takes care of itself.

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« #10 : May 10, 2013, 10:55:06 AM »

Players as leaders is overrated . If you are a great player who works hard, other guys will follow your lead , and you don't have to say a damn word. If you suck and you try to be "rah-rah" , the team will tune you out.


In short : we just need good players and the leadership takes care of itself.

+1 Also would like to add. Revis, but you can always have more than one leader. Ray Lewis and Reed.

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« #11 : May 10, 2013, 10:58:15 AM »

Players as leaders is overrated .

Name a team in NFL history who won a Super Bowl and had less leadership than this current Bucs team has.

Fran Tarkenton, Hall of Fame QB said. \\\"Ive watched Freeman a lot. He just plays God-awful. Thats who you are. Its just a player being able to play or not play. Josh Freeman has proven to me that he cant play.\\\"

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« #12 : May 10, 2013, 11:15:43 AM »

McCoy actually has to do something first
Legit ProBowler, top 100 player, central piece in the #1 rush defense... That's not something?

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« #13 : May 10, 2013, 11:45:37 AM »

Leaders lead in different ways.  Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Barber, Nickerson, Brad Johnson, Allstott, all led in their own way.   Multiple leaders are needed.  Hence, the drafting of former Captains.

It’s going to look to some people like a different play every time we use it, but pretty soon they’ll be able to recognize it....by watching the official for the first-down signal.   -Vincent T. Lombardi

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« #14 : May 10, 2013, 11:46:48 AM »

Bassfisher: that's an impossible question to answer since none of us are in any of these locker rooms,  and there is no way to rank the level of "leadership" per team anyways...

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