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« #30 : May 23, 2013, 12:13:58 PM »

I think some of you would be surprised at the amount of money he can make in track.  He may even be taking a cut to play football.
simply not true

Track salaries are low.  Appearance money and sponsor money can pile up.  Demps was recently rated in the top 10, so he'll get his... and if he's a two sport guy, those moneys go way up.

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    Sponsorship is a major source of income for professional track runners. At the bottom end of the scale, runners may simply receive kit or shoes from a sponsor. If they show promise, they may receive cash awards, which grow progressively larger with success. The website Inside Higher Ed reported that one female track runner who qualified for the Olympic Games was only able to secure $10,000 in sponsorship compared to top female runners who were able to command $150,000 to $200,000.

Performance

    Track runners can earn additional income by achieving victory in a competition or breaking records. Inside Higher Ed reported that the award for winning the women's long jump at the 2005 IAAF World Championships was $60,000. The Diamond League is a series of track meetings that take place over the summer season. News agency Reuters reported that the promoters' statement of prize money for the 2010 series was $6.6 million, plus more in promotional fees


Read more: The Average Salary of a Professional Track Runner | eHow http://www.ehow.com/info_8611456_average-salary-professional-track-runner.html#ixzz2U7scOLU8

youre missing where his role on the Olympic team is as an alternate. He's not even a top 4 guy in his own country, let alone the world. There's not much marketability there.

So lets say he gets 2x as much as the woman at 20,000. And let's say he wins 3 events (unlikely considering his past performances). He's still making half the money he would being on an NFL roster during the season.

You'll never get it if you don't add in that race sponsors pay to be able to put words like "Silver Medalist" and "United States" to their promo... and the shoe sponsors... and the drink sponsors...
except Demps isn't the guy to do that. He has one medal to his name and it's from a race that he didnt even run in.

You're showing your ignorace.  They don't give medals to non-participants.  He ran in the qualifiers, where an American record was set.

Here's a story about an athlete who isn't/wasn't as close to the top as Demps is:

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/news/nike-suspends-contract-oscar-pistorius-103439702.html

It says "millions over a few years".

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« #31 : May 23, 2013, 12:37:13 PM »

I think some of you would be surprised at the amount of money he can make in track.  He may even be taking a cut to play football.
simply not true

Track salaries are low.  Appearance money and sponsor money can pile up.  Demps was recently rated in the top 10, so he'll get his... and if he's a two sport guy, those moneys go way up.

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Sponsorship

    Sponsorship is a major source of income for professional track runners. At the bottom end of the scale, runners may simply receive kit or shoes from a sponsor. If they show promise, they may receive cash awards, which grow progressively larger with success. The website Inside Higher Ed reported that one female track runner who qualified for the Olympic Games was only able to secure $10,000 in sponsorship compared to top female runners who were able to command $150,000 to $200,000.

Performance

    Track runners can earn additional income by achieving victory in a competition or breaking records. Inside Higher Ed reported that the award for winning the women's long jump at the 2005 IAAF World Championships was $60,000. The Diamond League is a series of track meetings that take place over the summer season. News agency Reuters reported that the promoters' statement of prize money for the 2010 series was $6.6 million, plus more in promotional fees


Read more: The Average Salary of a Professional Track Runner | eHow http://www.ehow.com/info_8611456_average-salary-professional-track-runner.html#ixzz2U7scOLU8

youre missing where his role on the Olympic team is as an alternate. He's not even a top 4 guy in his own country, let alone the world. There's not much marketability there.

So lets say he gets 2x as much as the woman at 20,000. And let's say he wins 3 events (unlikely considering his past performances). He's still making half the money he would being on an NFL roster during the season.

You'll never get it if you don't add in that race sponsors pay to be able to put words like "Silver Medalist" and "United States" to their promo... and the shoe sponsors... and the drink sponsors...
except Demps isn't the guy to do that. He has one medal to his name and it's from a race that he didnt even run in.

You're showing your ignorace.  They don't give medals to non-participants.  He ran in the qualifiers, where an American record was set.

Here's a story about an athlete who isn't/wasn't as close to the top as Demps is:

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/news/nike-suspends-contract-oscar-pistorius-103439702.html

It says "millions over a few years".
couple problems with your theory

1) they do give medals to alternates

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/sports/How-Will-Pats-Use-Jeff-Demps-166715316.html?fullSite=y

2) Pistorius is the only person to run in the Olympics to not have... Legs. So ya, an international inspiration will get sponsors.

Other than that though, your post is dead on.


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« #32 : May 23, 2013, 12:47:14 PM »

Must be a Gator fan... Can't tell them nothing.

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« #33 : May 23, 2013, 01:06:34 PM »

Not all people are motivated by money.

He's not asking the Bucs for special treatment. They acquired his rights knowing his track plans.

There\'s a very real chance the Bucs waive [Revis] before next season. At the very least, it will be a discussion worth having.

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« #34 : May 23, 2013, 01:10:55 PM »

I think some of you would be surprised at the amount of money he can make in track.  He may even be taking a cut to play football.
simply not true

Track salaries are low.  Appearance money and sponsor money can pile up.  Demps was recently rated in the top 10, so he'll get his... and if he's a two sport guy, those moneys go way up.

Quote
Sponsorship

    Sponsorship is a major source of income for professional track runners. At the bottom end of the scale, runners may simply receive kit or shoes from a sponsor. If they show promise, they may receive cash awards, which grow progressively larger with success. The website Inside Higher Ed reported that one female track runner who qualified for the Olympic Games was only able to secure $10,000 in sponsorship compared to top female runners who were able to command $150,000 to $200,000.

Performance

    Track runners can earn additional income by achieving victory in a competition or breaking records. Inside Higher Ed reported that the award for winning the women's long jump at the 2005 IAAF World Championships was $60,000. The Diamond League is a series of track meetings that take place over the summer season. News agency Reuters reported that the promoters' statement of prize money for the 2010 series was $6.6 million, plus more in promotional fees


Read more: The Average Salary of a Professional Track Runner | eHow http://www.ehow.com/info_8611456_average-salary-professional-track-runner.html#ixzz2U7scOLU8

youre missing where his role on the Olympic team is as an alternate. He's not even a top 4 guy in his own country, let alone the world. There's not much marketability there.

So lets say he gets 2x as much as the woman at 20,000. And let's say he wins 3 events (unlikely considering his past performances). He's still making half the money he would being on an NFL roster during the season.

You'll never get it if you don't add in that race sponsors pay to be able to put words like "Silver Medalist" and "United States" to their promo... and the shoe sponsors... and the drink sponsors...
except Demps isn't the guy to do that. He has one medal to his name and it's from a race that he didnt even run in.

You're showing your ignorace.  They don't give medals to non-participants.  He ran in the qualifiers, where an American record was set.

Here's a story about an athlete who isn't/wasn't as close to the top as Demps is:

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/news/nike-suspends-contract-oscar-pistorius-103439702.html

It says "millions over a few years".
couple problems with your theory

1) they do give medals to alternates

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/sports/How-Will-Pats-Use-Jeff-Demps-166715316.html?fullSite=y

2) Pistorius is the only person to run in the Olympics to not have... Legs. So ya, an international inspiration will get sponsors.

Other than that though, your post is dead on.

Being an alternate is not the same as being a non-participant.  He got a medal because he ran... And imagine getting a deal from a sponsor that can boast about two sports...  The Pistorius deal just shows how much money can be had by means other than salary.

Michael Johnson is one of the best Olympic sprinters in history.  His first medal was for running a leg in the relays at age 25.  The guys that stepped in for Demps and Patton in the finals were in the 24-30 year old peak range for sprinters.  The guy he replaced as an alternate was 27.  Demps was 22, but he will get there... and he can play football, too.

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« #35 : May 23, 2013, 01:18:45 PM »

    Most folks pursuing an Olympic dream aren't that concerned about the financial side of it at such a young age. Pursuing one's dreams is really a personal matter; folks outside those dreams are unlikely to understand.
    Hey, many outsiders think football players are foolish for risking their body every time they step on the field.
Many of those outsiders, after seeing the lineup of ex-players who can't walk at age 60, are quite sure they're right. However, there are many players in that lineup who have no regrets...

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« #36 : May 23, 2013, 01:20:14 PM »

How will he "get there"? track is one sport where it doesn't matter how hard and long you train, if you can't intially beat someone you never will unless there an injury. How long has Tyson Gay been trying to beat Usain Bolt? I think he beat him once and that's when Bolt was injured... Every other time he got SMOKED.

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« #37 : May 23, 2013, 01:22:10 PM »

How will he "get there"? track is one sport where it doesn't matter how hard and long you train, if you can't intially beat someone you never will unless there an injury. How long has Tyson Gay been trying to beat Usain Bolt? I think he beat him once and that's when Bolt was injured... Every other time he got SMOKED.

...and Tyson Gay doesn't get paid?

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« #38 : May 23, 2013, 01:32:38 PM »

How will he "get there"? track is one sport where it doesn't matter how hard and long you train, if you can't intially beat someone you never will unless there an injury. How long has Tyson Gay been trying to beat Usain Bolt? I think he beat him once and that's when Bolt was injured... Every other time he got SMOKED.

...and Tyson Gay doesn't get paid?
Tyson gets paid... Jeff Demps is no Tyson Gay. He's the best sprinter in America and the Jamaicans have 4 guys that could beat in him wearing flip flops.... So where does that put Jeff Demps?

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« #39 : May 23, 2013, 01:36:19 PM »

"When Demps concludes track season this August, he’ll need to put on weight fast, which means eating more and heavier lifting. He’ll aim for 190-195. That’s a significant, but necessary jump."

Who gives a **CENSORED** if he is not in training camp?? I don't. Guy is a kick returner/3rd down back. He is a big play waiting to happen. If he can help the team win what's the problem?


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« #40 : May 23, 2013, 01:38:15 PM »

How will he "get there"? track is one sport where it doesn't matter how hard and long you train, if you can't intially beat someone you never will unless there an injury. How long has Tyson Gay been trying to beat Usain Bolt? I think he beat him once and that's when Bolt was injured... Every other time he got SMOKED.

...and Tyson Gay doesn't get paid?
Tyson gets paid... Jeff Demps is no Tyson Gay. He's the best sprinter in America and the Jamaicans have 4 guys that could beat in him wearing flip flops.... So where does that put Jeff Demps?

Maybe better than the Ernest Owusu money he'll make with the Bucs...

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« #41 : May 23, 2013, 01:40:56 PM »

"When Demps concludes track season this August, he’ll need to put on weight fast, which means eating more and heavier lifting. He’ll aim for 190-195. That’s a significant, but necessary jump."

Who gives a **CENSORED** if he is not in training camp?? I don't. Guy is a kick returner/3rd down back. He is a big play waiting to happen. If he can help the team win what's the problem?
Wouldn't he have to know and practice a few things to be a 3rd down back?

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« #42 : May 23, 2013, 01:44:50 PM »

"When Demps concludes track season this August, he’ll need to put on weight fast, which means eating more and heavier lifting. He’ll aim for 190-195. That’s a significant, but necessary jump."

Who gives a **CENSORED** if he is not in training camp?? I don't. Guy is a kick returner/3rd down back. He is a big play waiting to happen. If he can help the team win what's the problem?
Wouldn't he have to know and practice a few things to be a 3rd down back?

Well you would ease him into the game plan. Shouldn't be to difficult to give him a few plays a game from the rip.


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« #43 : May 23, 2013, 01:54:32 PM »

"When Demps concludes track season this August, he’ll need to put on weight fast, which means eating more and heavier lifting. He’ll aim for 190-195. That’s a significant, but necessary jump."

Who gives a **CENSORED** if he is not in training camp?? I don't. Guy is a kick returner/3rd down back. He is a big play waiting to happen. If he can help the team win what's the problem?
Wouldn't he have to know and practice a few things to be a 3rd down back?

Well you would ease him into the game plan. Shouldn't be to difficult to give him a few plays a game from the rip.
He will miss the entire offseason pretty much.  It's substantially harder to ease anyone in while the season begins.  Also as you quoted, the kid has to add 15 to 20 lbs after he is done with track.  That wont happen in a week or two.

And again, is this track thing a recurring situation?  Will we ever have him for an offseason so he could actually improve with the team?  If next season we have to deal with the same stuff then he's not worth it because he wont actually be improving as a player and teammate.  All he will be is fast and while speed is great, it's not everything.  You can't just go half-in when dealing with the NFL.  You are either in or out and he appears to be out.

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« #44 : May 23, 2013, 01:55:03 PM »

How will he "get there"? track is one sport where it doesn't matter how hard and long you train, if you can't intially beat someone you never will unless there an injury. How long has Tyson Gay been trying to beat Usain Bolt? I think he beat him once and that's when Bolt was injured... Every other time he got SMOKED.

...and Tyson Gay doesn't get paid?
Tyson gets paid... Jeff Demps is no Tyson Gay. He's the best sprinter in America and the Jamaicans have 4 guys that could beat in him wearing flip flops.... So where does that put Jeff Demps?

Maybe better than the Ernest Owusu money he'll make with the Bucs...
I imagine that 4 years on Ernest Owusu NFL roster filler money would be more than 4 years of being on the fringe of being the top 5 sprinter in America alone. Nobody knows you unless your are at the top so sponsorship deals wouldn't be flying in.
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