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GREATEST COACHES IN NFL HISTORY


 ESPN.com: NFL 

Tuesday, May 21, 2013


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By Greg Garber

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No. 20.......Tony Dungy





No. 19 -... Mike Shanahan





No. 18 - ...Sid Gillman





No. 17......Marv Levy




No...16.....Hank Stram




No.....15......Bud Grant




No.....14.......Tom Coughlin




No......13..........Jimmy Johnson






No.....12.........John Madden





No....11.........Bill Parcells






No....10........Curly Lambeau


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No......9.........Joe Gibbs






No.........8......Tom Landry




No........... 7 ...... Bill Belichick




No. ..........6 ...... Paul Brown




No.............. 5 -....... Chuck Noll




No. ................4 - .......George Halas




No. ....................3 - ......Don Shula





No........................ 2 - .......Bill Walsh





No........................... 1 - .......Vince Lombardi







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#1 : May 25, 2013, 07:57:48 AM

If Dungy is on the list, I expect Gruden to be much higher on the list since he basically took over Dungy's team and won a Super Bowl with it when Dungy couldn't win a Super Bowl with that same talent.

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#2 : May 25, 2013, 08:37:52 AM

I could name about 20 off the top of my head that would be more qualified than Dungy or Gruden.

Here's a few: Landry, Halas, Lombardi, Cowher, Johnson, Noll, Walsh, Parcells,  Madden, Flores, Gibbs, Lambeau, L. Saban, Knox, Ewbank, and Reeves.

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#3 : May 25, 2013, 08:44:01 AM

Here's a few more: Allen, Siefert, Vermeil, Gillman, Corryell, Stram, Billick.  Maybe even Holmgren and Reid

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#4 : May 25, 2013, 03:26:56 PM

Agreed Stan. Neither Dungy nor Gruden should sniff the top 20.

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#5 : May 25, 2013, 10:30:35 PM

I could name about 20 off the top of my head that would be more qualified than Dungy or Gruden.

Here's a few: Landry, Halas, Lombardi, Cowher, Johnson, Noll, Walsh, Parcells,  Madden, Flores, Gibbs, Lambeau, L. Saban, Knox, Ewbank, and Reeves.




Dungy was a helluva coach, maybe even as good as some of those you mentioned. The problem with him though, is longevity.  Most of those guys you mentioned, had pretty long NFL careers.  If Dungy was around longer, or started earlier, I think he would of scored even higher than #20.


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#6 : May 26, 2013, 01:02:58 AM

I could name about 20 off the top of my head that would be more qualified than Dungy or Gruden.

Here's a few: Landry, Halas, Lombardi, Cowher, Johnson, Noll, Walsh, Parcells,  Madden, Flores, Gibbs, Lambeau, L. Saban, Knox, Ewbank, and Reeves.

Dungy was a helluva coach, maybe even as good as some of those you mentioned. The problem with him though, is longevity.  Most of those guys you mentioned, had pretty long NFL careers.  If Dungy was around longer, or started earlier, I think he would of scored even higher than #20.


Agreed..... and i'd venture to guess a lot of those older coaches wouldn't have been as successful in today's era of free agency.

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#7 : May 26, 2013, 05:51:57 AM

I'm not sure Dungy would make a top 50 list, top 100 for Gruden. Gruden was better suited to be an OC. IMO, we fired the best HC we had and hired Dungy. Schiano will outshine them all in time (Buccaneer coaches).

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#8 : May 26, 2013, 05:33:17 PM

and you base this off what?

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#9 : May 27, 2013, 05:59:04 AM

dungy had his weaknesses like us all, but he also got the Colts over the top... combine his colts success with the way he turned around the Bucs and I think his resume outshines gruden.  an interesting way to also look at the quality of a coach is his prodige tree... and dungy mentored a lot of head coaches.

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#10 : May 27, 2013, 06:15:38 AM

dungy had his weaknesses like us all, but he also got the Colts over the top... combine his colts success with the way he turned around the Bucs and I think his resume outshines gruden.  an interesting way to also look at the quality of a coach is his prodige tree... and dungy mentored a lot of head coaches.

And Gruden mentored nobody.

Dungy definitely is a great teacher, but I have to believe Walsh or Belichick would have gotten more than one Lombardi out of Peyton Manning. Also, Dungy would have none without Manning.

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#11 : May 27, 2013, 08:37:05 AM

You could say Bill Callahan was a Gruden protege. 


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#12 : May 27, 2013, 10:08:08 AM

You could say Bill Callahan was a Gruden protege.

So true.   I'm interested to see how much higher Gruden is on that list than Callahan.

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#13 : May 27, 2013, 06:39:57 PM

I'm not sure Dungy would make a top 50 list, top 100 for Gruden. Gruden was better suited to be an OC. IMO, we fired the best HC we had and hired Dungy. Schiano will outshine them all in time (Buccaneer coaches).



Sam Wyche the best HC the Bucs ever had?  Maybe I read that wrong.


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#14 : May 27, 2013, 09:43:03 PM

I'm not sure Dungy would make a top 50 list, top 100 for Gruden. Gruden was better suited to be an OC. IMO, we fired the best HC we had and hired Dungy. Schiano will outshine them all in time (Buccaneer coaches).



Sam Wyche the best HC the Bucs ever had?  Maybe I read that wrong.

Given the 6 years Dungy got or the 7 years Gruden got, Wyche would have built a consistent winner, if not a league championship. It's just my opinion. Dungy peaked in '99 and got progressively worse his last two years. Gruden got the team over the hump and then became erratic. John McKay isn't worth mentioning in this conversation. I honestly believe Schiano will outshine them all but Wyche was the most capable to this point IMO.
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