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#105 : May 30, 2013, 12:10:00 PM

I am not a total libertarian because I realize that  in its purest form it could never happen.  Very few including myself could live a total libertarian life.   Too many cows out of the barn.

You are correct though some of my strong opinions are not totally libertarian in nature.


You are you and I am me. Trying to categorize individuals with broad stroke labels just doesn't work.




Global warming is a fact... its cause is what remains highly speculative and  questionable.  How long it will continue also is up for question.


I would say "global warming was a fact". There is some data that suggests temps may have already peaked, but because these warming/cooling cycles last centuries it is hard to know when they end. We do know there was a warming trend from ~1810-1850 till maybe 1990 or maybe still going.



By illicit I was not referring to anything but the BIG THREE:  COCAINE MJ and Heroin.    One can thank Big Pharma for those other things you mentioned and a few you didn't.

My opinion is that some of these must still be regulated/controlled. I think a good line to draw is the number of steps involved in creating the drug. i.e. MJ has no steps, pure plant material is consumed. Same with mushrooms, peyote. Liquor has 3 steps, fermentation, filtering, distillation. Powder Coke has 5 steps. Not sure about heroin but I know first you have to get opium from plant matter, then several steps to morphine, then more steps to heroin.. My thinking is the closer to "natural" it is, the less regulation there should be.



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#106 : May 31, 2013, 10:31:01 PM

You are entitled to your opinion on Ron Paul but I believe you are making far too many false assumptions  and interpretations on the man.

I'm not making any assumptions. I'm quoting the guy. How am I making an assumption, false or otherwise, by calling him a voluntarist when I am basing it on an interview where he calls himself a voluntarist? How am I making a false assertion by suggesting that he wants to eliminate income taxes by citing a quote from him saying that he wants to eliminate income taxes?

Well I guess you get a RED STAR for admitting you are a socialist.   Perhaps Communist is a correct label.   Just don't believe that is what made America the greatest country in the world.  That label is under assault today.

Ah, there's the association that I was expecting the first time around. The good 'ole "C" word. I can assure you, I am no communist, and I'm pretty sure you know as much, and only decided to call me one to up the ante because I wasn't offended by being called a socialist.


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#107 : June 01, 2013, 07:32:02 AM

No,  he probably just shook his head and laughed when you weren't upset by being called a socialist. Not even Dear Leader Chairman Maobama likes to be called a socialist. LOL.

What is your point? I was wrong? Ok. You win. I was wrong.

           

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#108 : June 01, 2013, 11:31:54 AM

No,  he probably just shook his head and laughed when you weren't upset by being called a socialist. Not even Dear Leader Chairman Maobama likes to be called a socialist. LOL.

That's probably because Obama isn't a socialist. At least, he hasn't governed like one. The most socialistic thing he's done was Obamacare, and that's only socialist in it's concept, not in it's execution.

Also, I've called myself a socialist many times. A democratic socialist and a market socialist to be exact. Conservatives attack socialism the way that McCarthy attacked communism in the '50's. I am not an advocate for a society mirroring the Soviet Union, I am an advocate for a society that follows the Scandinavian model, a model that was copied from the United States as it existed from the '40's to the '80's.

America was built on socialism. The next time you take the highway anywhere, thank a socialist. If you are a member of the middle class, thank a socialist, because prior to the labor movement, there wasn't one. There are monument's all over DC dedicated to the memorial of socialists. Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Dwight Eisenhower, JFK, MLK, all socialists. So no, I wasn't offended by it. Nor would any of them be.


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#109 : June 01, 2013, 01:13:58 PM

No,  he probably just shook his head and laughed when you weren't upset by being called a socialist. Not even Dear Leader Chairman Maobama likes to be called a socialist. LOL.

That's probably because Obama isn't a socialist. At least, he hasn't governed like one. The most socialistic thing he's done was Obamacare, and that's only socialist in it's concept, not in it's execution.

Also, I've called myself a socialist many times. A democratic socialist and a market socialist to be exact. Conservatives attack socialism the way that McCarthy attacked communism in the '50's. I am not an advocate for a society mirroring the Soviet Union, I am an advocate for a society that follows the Scandinavian model, a model that was copied from the United States as it existed from the '40's to the '80's.

America was built on socialism. The next time you take the highway anywhere, thank a socialist. If you are a member of the middle class, thank a socialist, because prior to the labor movement, there wasn't one. There are monument's all over DC dedicated to the memorial of socialists. Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Dwight Eisenhower, JFK, MLK, all socialists. So no, I wasn't offended by it. Nor would any of them be.

Wow .....


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#110 : June 01, 2013, 01:39:03 PM

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!

What is your point? I was wrong? Ok. You win. I was wrong.

           

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#111 : June 01, 2013, 02:41:17 PM

And the butt buddies follow one another yet again. At least you guys are taking turns on who's the bottom. That's the sign of a good relationship.


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#112 : June 01, 2013, 07:13:50 PM

And the butt buddies follow one another yet again. At least you guys are taking turns on who's the bottom. That's the sign of a good relationship.

CBW, the self-proclaimed smartest man in the Cove (lol) isn't smart enough to keep from getting very mad


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#113 : June 01, 2013, 07:29:53 PM

And the butt buddies follow one another yet again. At least you guys are taking turns on who's the bottom. That's the sign of a good relationship.

CBW, the self-proclaimed smartest man in the Cove (lol) isn't smart enough to keep from getting very mad

What, no gif this time?


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#114 : June 01, 2013, 08:33:48 PM

America was built on socialism.


Bawaaahhhhhaaa .... So says the "Smartest Man in the Cove"


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#115 : June 01, 2013, 09:24:50 PM

America was built on socialism.


Bawaaahhhhhaaa .... So says the "Smartest Man in the Cove"

You're right, Vince. I suppose we do need to make a distinction here. Old America was built on the backs of slave, and near slave labor in an unfettered capitalist system. New America, however, industrial revolution and on, was built on socialism.


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#116 : June 01, 2013, 10:04:56 PM


What is your point? I was wrong? Ok. You win. I was wrong.

           
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