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#15 : June 19, 2013, 06:05:30 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

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#16 : June 19, 2013, 06:30:36 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

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#17 : June 19, 2013, 07:19:27 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

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#18 : June 19, 2013, 07:55:25 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

You are both right.

Armslist merely acts as a listing agency and a such leave it up to the buyer and seller to ensure the transaction is both legal and safe (to quote them directly).

However, most online sales are done through legitimate dealers who will only ship to an FFL dealer. Then you need ID and are subject to a background check. The 40% stat about online sales without a background check is bull**CENSORED** pure and simple before anyone brings it up.

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#19 : June 19, 2013, 07:58:50 PM


What problem are the anti-gun advocates trying to solve?

Which is pretty much what I have been saying for months.

Most gun control advocates have a solution waiting for a problem to happen.

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#20 : June 19, 2013, 08:05:08 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

And you wonder why nearly everyone thinks of you as a complete **CENSORED** nozzle. I figured I would give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you a serious question. But thanks to Spartan he (not surprisingly) answered it  without letting his ego get in the way. You on the other hand maybe the weakest most insecure person to ever entire this place.

Turns out you couldn't answer the question correctly,  anyway. What a surprise.

Some lawyer you turned out to be.  ::

Thank you, Spartan.

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#21 : June 19, 2013, 08:13:18 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

You are both right.

Armslist merely acts as a listing agency and a such leave it up to the buyer and seller to ensure the transaction is both legal and safe (to quote them directly).

However, most online sales are done through legitimate dealers who will only ship to an FFL dealer. Then you need ID and are subject to a background check. The 40% stat about online sales without a background check is bull**CENSORED** pure and simple before anyone brings it up.

You know, Spartan reading your answer again. Unless there are laws broken in the chain of this transaction it is not possible to make it work w/o ensuring that someone is over the age of 18. The point being of course iif the laws are broken in this transaction then criminals are going to continue to break the laws no matter. As far as Armslist goes they're just a listing agent and don't get involved w/ transactions so there naturally need be no ID required on their behalf since they are not the seller to be begin with. So how is Vinnie even "half-right"?


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#22 : June 19, 2013, 08:35:00 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

You are both right.

Armslist merely acts as a listing agency and a such leave it up to the buyer and seller to ensure the transaction is both legal and safe (to quote them directly).

However, most online sales are done through legitimate dealers who will only ship to an FFL dealer. Then you need ID and are subject to a background check. The 40% stat about online sales without a background check is bull**CENSORED** pure and simple before anyone brings it up.

You know, Spartan reading your answer again. Unless there are laws broken in the chain of this transaction it is not possible to make it work w/o ensuring that someone is over the age of 18. The point being of course iif the laws are broken in this transaction then criminals are going to continue to break the laws no matter. As far as Armslist goes they're just a listing agent and don't get involved w/ transactions so there naturally need be no ID required on their behalf since they are not the seller to be begin with. So how is Vinnie even "half-right"?

The over 18 thing is a disclaimer, just like when you go to a porn site (or so I've heard). Therefore the seller can demand no kind of ID or proof of age when the buyer turns up with a bundle of cash.

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#23 : June 19, 2013, 08:52:45 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

You are both right.

Armslist merely acts as a listing agency and a such leave it up to the buyer and seller to ensure the transaction is both legal and safe (to quote them directly).

However, most online sales are done through legitimate dealers who will only ship to an FFL dealer. Then you need ID and are subject to a background check. The 40% stat about online sales without a background check is bull**CENSORED** pure and simple before anyone brings it up.

You know, Spartan reading your answer again. Unless there are laws broken in the chain of this transaction it is not possible to make it work w/o ensuring that someone is over the age of 18. The point being of course iif the laws are broken in this transaction then criminals are going to continue to break the laws no matter. As far as Armslist goes they're just a listing agent and don't get involved w/ transactions so there naturally need be no ID required on their behalf since they are not the seller to be begin with. So how is Vinnie even "half-right"?

The over 18 thing is a disclaimer, just like when you go to a porn site (or so I've heard). Therefore the seller can demand no kind of ID or proof of age when the buyer turns up with a bundle of cash.

So there's no minimum age requirement for purchasing a firearm in this state? According to what I see online you have to be 18. I'm not asking about the armslist. Forget about the armslist that's just a listing site. What I'm talking about is purchasing the gun. In a private person to person transaction isn't the seller supposed to be sure that the buyer is at least 18?

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#24 : June 19, 2013, 08:58:40 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

And you wonder why nearly everyone thinks of you as a complete **CENSORED** nozzle. I figured I would give you the benefit of the doubt and ask you a serious question. But thanks to Spartan he (not surprisingly) answered it  without letting his ego get in the way. You on the other hand maybe the weakest most insecure person to ever entire this place.

Turns out you couldn't answer the question correctly,  anyway. What a surprise.

Some lawyer you turned out to be.  ::

Thank you, Spartan.

Ouch, stop. That hurts.

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#25 : June 19, 2013, 08:59:57 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

You are both right.

Armslist merely acts as a listing agency and a such leave it up to the buyer and seller to ensure the transaction is both legal and safe (to quote them directly).

However, most online sales are done through legitimate dealers who will only ship to an FFL dealer. Then you need ID and are subject to a background check. The 40% stat about online sales without a background check is bull**CENSORED** pure and simple before anyone brings it up.

You know, Spartan reading your answer again. Unless there are laws broken in the chain of this transaction it is not possible to make it work w/o ensuring that someone is over the age of 18. The point being of course iif the laws are broken in this transaction then criminals are going to continue to break the laws no matter. As far as Armslist goes they're just a listing agent and don't get involved w/ transactions so there naturally need be no ID required on their behalf since they are not the seller to be begin with. So how is Vinnie even "half-right"?

Lol

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#26 : June 19, 2013, 09:02:04 PM

Durango, trying so hard to not have to admit I am right. Lol at the absurdity if he only knew the context if te discussion. Buggsy, why don't you explain to Durango what the word hyperbole means? Lmao

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#27 : June 19, 2013, 09:05:07 PM

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/tampa/rifles

Lol. No ID required

Using your link as an example. I was under the impression that if one were to buy a gun via mail that it would have to be shipped to a FFL, (unless the buyer is a FFL holder) which in both cases would obviously involve an ID**. The "get around" to that would be to have the buyer and seller meet in person. In that case, the seller would need to verify that the buyer (in FL) is at least 18 years old. Which obviously would also require an ID.

Firearms ain't my thing, so I am asking.

Edit ** When the firearm is sent to a FFL unless the buyer is a CCW then they would also have to submit to a background check as well.

Help me out here, what am I missing? Sounds like it all involves age verification hence an ID. No?

Lol

You are both right.

Armslist merely acts as a listing agency and a such leave it up to the buyer and seller to ensure the transaction is both legal and safe (to quote them directly).

However, most online sales are done through legitimate dealers who will only ship to an FFL dealer. Then you need ID and are subject to a background check. The 40% stat about online sales without a background check is bull**CENSORED** pure and simple before anyone brings it up.

You know, Spartan reading your answer again. Unless there are laws broken in the chain of this transaction it is not possible to make it work w/o ensuring that someone is over the age of 18. The point being of course iif the laws are broken in this transaction then criminals are going to continue to break the laws no matter. As far as Armslist goes they're just a listing agent and don't get involved w/ transactions so there naturally need be no ID required on their behalf since they are not the seller to be begin with. So how is Vinnie even "half-right"?

Lol

Looks like you're wrong agin, Pyscho-Boy. If there's a turd on the pitch you can bet your ass you'll be the one to step right in it.  You maybe an idiot but at least you are a consistent idiot.

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#28 : June 19, 2013, 09:07:48 PM

Durango, trying so hard to not have to admit I am right. Lol at the absurdity if he only knew the context if te discussion. Buggsy, why don't you explain to Durango what the word hyperbole means? Lmao

Just tell me if and how I'm wrong. What's so difficult in trying to do that. I came at you w/ an honest question and now you want to make some big broadway production out of it.

I don't get it. Why the big run around.

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#29 : June 19, 2013, 09:18:28 PM

Durango, trying so hard to not have to admit I am right. Lol at the absurdity if he only knew the context if te discussion. Buggsy, why don't you explain to Durango what the word hyperbole means? Lmao

Just tell me if and how I'm wrong. What's so difficult in trying to do that. I came at you w/ an honest question and now you want to make some big broadway production out of it.

I don't get it. Why the big run around.

No big run around. You're wrong on several levels but its amusing to watch you try so hard.

CBW (not me) compared buying guns to buying beer noting that its was easier to buy guns on some cases. Buggsy stormed in, as he does, and said that was hyperbole. It is not. The seller of beer requires a license from the buyer to prove age under risk of losing the right to sell beer. The private seller of an AR15 requires nothing other than money.  A 19 year old can by an AR15 tomorrow, no ID no questions asked, even if a felon or mentally incompent. It's no hyperbole, one can purchase an assault rifle easier than beer.

So you're wrong on the question you asked and more wrong on the hyperbole question, but like I said .., its funny to watch you try so hard.

Btw, the " I asked you an honest question" stuff is laughable given your track record. ;-)

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