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: July 08, 2013, 10:38:23 AM

Bucs safety Mark Barron had an up and down 2012 rookie season. Having veteran Ronde Barber as a teammate most certainly was a benefit but the additions of Dashon Goldson and Darrelle Revis should make Barron and the entire defense much better in 2013.

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#1 : July 08, 2013, 12:25:34 PM

Good article. I certainly commend you for not falling into the usual(inaccurate) statement made by some in the media that he was played "out of position" or "should have been played in the box". No. If you want Barron in the Box most of his snaps, then he would be a LB, not a Safety. The Bucs are almost always going to have 2 safeties 12-15+ yards off the ball(nearly 80%) of the plays by my count in 2012. While I do agree that having Revis and Goldson back there will take some of the pressure off Barron and make the slice of the field that he is responsible for a little smaller, their presence does nothing in terms of him being in m2m coverage vs a pass catcher. This is an area that he and he alone will have to get better at. He will also have to do a better job of getting his head around and not just trying to block the ball from getting to its target with his body or by extending his arms without turning his head. These things should be coachable. He should be fine in 2012. Revis and Goldson are part of that reason, but 2 other contributors will be coaching and personal growth as a ballplayer who is still adjusting.


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#2 : July 08, 2013, 02:35:45 PM

There is no reason that this defense isn't in the top 10 next year. I know i've been treading lightly with my expectations, but screw it. This defense is freaking loaded with talent and should be very hard to move the ball on. Don't care, 11-5 is my expectation of this team. I expect us to be much much better than most/all of the pundits think.

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#3 : July 08, 2013, 02:57:54 PM

Good article. I certainly commend you for not falling into the usual(inaccurate) statement made by some in the media that he was played "out of position" or "should have been played in the box". No. If you want Barron in the Box most of his snaps, then he would be a LB, not a Safety. The Bucs are almost always going to have 2 safeties 12-15+ yards off the ball(nearly 80%) of the plays by my count in 2012. While I do agree that having Revis and Goldson back there will take some of the pressure off Barron and make the slice of the field that he is responsible for a little smaller, their presence does nothing in terms of him being in m2m coverage vs a pass catcher. This is an area that he and he alone will have to get better at. He will also have to do a better job of getting his head around and not just trying to block the ball from getting to its target with his body or by extending his arms without turning his head. These things should be coachable. He should be fine in 2012. Revis and Goldson are part of that reason, but 2 other contributors will be coaching and personal growth as a ballplayer who is still adjusting.

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#4 : July 08, 2013, 03:57:32 PM

There is no reason that this defense isn't in the top 10 next year. I know i've been treading lightly with my expectations, but screw it. This defense is freaking loaded with talent and should be very hard to move the ball on. Don't care, 11-5 is my expectation of this team. I expect us to be much much better than most/all of the pundits think.

Agree, Im pumped about this team. The defense should be a lot better than last years. 11-5 is doable as long as everybody stays healthy. I know everybody keeps saying "stay healthy" but thats every teams concerns. Usually the talented teams that are able to do so are in it at the end.

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#5 : July 08, 2013, 04:57:48 PM

Good article. I certainly commend you for not falling into the usual(inaccurate) statement made by some in the media that he was played "out of position" or "should have been played in the box". No. If you want Barron in the Box most of his snaps, then he would be a LB, not a Safety. The Bucs are almost always going to have 2 safeties 12-15+ yards off the ball(nearly 80%) of the plays by my count in 2012. While I do agree that having Revis and Goldson back there will take some of the pressure off Barron and make the slice of the field that he is responsible for a little smaller, their presence does nothing in terms of him being in m2m coverage vs a pass catcher. This is an area that he and he alone will have to get better at. He will also have to do a better job of getting his head around and not just trying to block the ball from getting to its target with his body or by extending his arms without turning his head. These things should be coachable. He should be fine in 2012. Revis and Goldson are part of that reason, but 2 other contributors will be coaching and personal growth as a ballplayer who is still adjusting.

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#6 : July 08, 2013, 09:08:58 PM

There is no reason that this defense isn't in the top 10 next year. I know i've been treading lightly with my expectations, but screw it. This defense is freaking loaded with talent and should be very hard to move the ball on. Don't care, 11-5 is my expectation of this team. I expect us to be much much better than most/all of the pundits think.
I really want to share the optimism but am wary of adding up the sum of the parts.
Players, sure, some nice names, but I'm not sure we have the best scheme or coordinator either.
Hoping I'm dead wrong here.
Regardless, we probably won't hit stride as a unit till mid season, something D. Brooks, was fond of saying.



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#7 : July 09, 2013, 12:56:50 PM

There is no reason that this defense isn't in the top 10 next year. I know i've been treading lightly with my expectations, but screw it. This defense is freaking loaded with talent and should be very hard to move the ball on. Don't care, 11-5 is my expectation of this team. I expect us to be much much better than most/all of the pundits think.

I'd settle for top 15 but I can guarantee they won't be 1st against the run like they were last year. As was mentioned, they gel, but hopefully they gel 1/3 of the way through the season.

Offense has a good shot be top 10.

Team looks great on paper so 10-6 looks possible to me. 4-2 in the division will go a long way.

Now if both units are top 10 and special teams improve along with everyone staying relatively healthy, watch out bubba!
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