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Kiddie Pool: Are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers As Shallow As Analysts Think?


Jul 6th, 2013 at 4:46 pm

by Leo Howell



 
This week the media and Twitter have been loaded with discussion and speculation about the perceived depth of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Comments like “If the Buccaneers lost (insert good player) next year, they’d be in trouble!”
 
That’s true for almost every team.
 
Not every franchise gets Wes Welker as their third wide receiver. Not every team has Ben Tate behind their starting running back. So what defines depth, and do the Buccaneers have it heading into 2013?
 
Let’s take a look at two positions where the Buccaneers are apparently lacking for depth, and consider their options and their outlook for the 2013 season.
 




Wide Receiver

The Buccaneers spent big on Vincent Jackson during free agency a year ago, and he proved to be well worth the outlay. The big, strong wideout commanded the football and made huge plays for the Bucs in 2012. But with offering him such a massive contract, the Buccaneers put themselves in a bind when it comes to paying for depth at the position. Mike Williams is a solid number two, and figures to get a contract extension this offseason. But the third wide receiver spot features the returning Tiquan Underwood who seemed lost at times in 2012 and doesn’t have the best hands on the team, and then competition in the form of new additions and practice squad players looking to break out and earn a roster spot.
 
So is there a lack of depth at wide receiver? Absolutely. In a league where three wide receiver sets are used frequently, it’s good to have at least three receivers who are a threat to make a play with the football. But when the top WR on the team is making a fortune, it’s tough to justify spending big on a third player at the position. But more importantly, with a quarterback like Josh Freeman, and an offense like the one run under Mike Sullivan, it’s not wise to invest in the third receiver spot on the depth chart. Wide receivers not named Vincent or Mike only saw around 65 targets in 2012, according to Pro Football Focus. And with fewer than 100 targets going to the tight ends, it’s obvious that the two top WRs got the lion’s share of targets, which turned out to be a productive decision for the Buccaneers’ record-setting offense.
 
Kevin Ogletree has promise, and Tiquan Underwood will provide a threat with his athletic ability, so there is more than just practice squad fodder behind Mike and Vincent. But this is an area of the Bucs that would be impacted by a severe injury, which is something most NFL teams can say about major skill positions.
 
Take the Falcons, for example. They have risen to prominence with their two-headed monster at wide receiver, but Harry Douglas and Drew Davis aren’t going to be able to capably fill in for Roddy White or Julio Jones. The Dirty Birds would see a huge change in their offense should they lose one of these key receivers, even with Tony Gonzalez still in town.  The presence of a strong tight end means the Falcons are better off than the Bucs in the passing game should one of their top wideouts get hurt, but they’re still lacking an option out wide should one of their best players get injured.




Defensive Line
 
The loss of Michael Bennett has been a point of contention for many Bucs’s, as the hard-working defensive end would have provided depth on the line heading into 2013. Relying on Da’Quan Bowers and Adrian Clayborn seems risky considering their injury histories, but there is still depth despite the lack of Bennett in the fold.
 
Daniel Te’o-Nesheim and Aaron Morgan both return having earned snaps last year thanks to injuries. And they both demonstrated the ability to make plays, even if they’re not going to be starters in the NFL any time soon.  Just ask Morgan’s agent, Greg Linton:
 

NFL Philosophy@NFLosophy

@agentlinton Haha. Didn't know he was one of your guys. He might be a decent backup, just not a guy I want starting every game.


Greg Linton @agentlinton

@NFLosophy in a 3-4 I think he can be an every down player. But in a 4-3, situational guy. All we need is 25 and 8 this year.
12:44 PM - 6 Jul 2013





In other words, Aaron Morgan and his agent have set a goal for 8 sacks in 2013 as a situational player in the Bucs’ 4-3 system, which he believes will springboard his player to a bigger deal elsewhere. But besides talking up his player (and paycheck), Linton took a moment to shed some light on the depth the Bucs have at DL:
 
 
NFL Philosophy@NFLosophy

@agentlinton Haha. Didn't know he was one of your guys. He might be a decent backup, just not a guy I want starting every game.


Greg Linton @agentlinton

@NFLosophy but if teo, morgan and 1 of the rookies can play 10 snaps, Clayborn and Bowers will have less chance of injury... and if 1 (1/2)
12:48 PM - 6 Jul 2013


Greg Linton @agentlinton

goes down the 4 can combine to form a decent starter (2/2)
12:48 PM - 6 Jul 2013

 

In other words, he believes that there is a starter’s value hidden within a combination of Morgan, Te’o-Nesheim, and one of the Buccaneers’ rookies, Steven Means and William Gholston. This is the definition of depth. And while this can be seen as an agent talking up “his guy”, it’s also the insight of a man who must study and learn football to make a living, as he tries to work with players to put them in the right positions to get paid.
 
So it appears that there is some depth to be found in Tampa Bay, but it all comes with questions and caveats, which is what happens when a franchise decides to invest heavily in upper echelon players like Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson, Dashon Goldson, and Darrelle Revis. The Buccaneers are rolling the dice with their stars, hoping they stay on the field in 2013. So like most teams in the NFL, they’re going to need to stay healthy to have the best chance to win. But they’ve built up sneaky depth at a few positions, and while they may lack at other spots on the depth chart, I feel the Buccaneers are built fairly well for a team that has spent so heavily on the top 10% of the team.




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« #1 : July 07, 2013, 06:35:34 AM »

Yes they are shallow at a few positions. DE is the biggest one. We need those 8 sacks from Morgan.

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« #2 : July 07, 2013, 04:24:47 PM »

Yes they are shallow at a few positions. DE is the biggest one. We need those 8 sacks from Morgan.


Agree, and huge seasons from Clay and Bowers.  Too much to ask?  We shall see.


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« #3 : July 07, 2013, 08:53:12 PM »

we thought we were very shallow at OL last year but showed that our depth can perform adequately when needed.  it's amazing what good coaching can do.  I am very confident in our OL, OC, and ST coaches... I don't have a good feel on the rest, but am hopeful.
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