Florida State University (FSU) has had its share of "bad boys" on its football team, as well as other national rated teams, such as Florida Gators and the Miami Hurricanes.....Bobby Bowden often looked the other way when they were recruited.
Link? Certainly every team has its "bad boys" and Bowden's 3 strike rule was maintained for minor offenses. In some cases though it was (1) strike... See Randy Moss... The factual record will show a huge disparity between both the numbers and the way they were handled at each school. FSU's footlocker UF's Tank Black UM's Shapiro... Explain how FSU is more egregious situation than those at UM and UF?
FSU has never been charged with a LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL under the entire Bowden watch. Both UF and UM can't make such statements.
My only point is UF lets them slide too much and it is shown in their dealings with criminal behavior that almost always disappears.Let me educate you on the critical differences between how "bad boys" are dealt with at UF compared to FSU...
Pretty interesting and a good read and pretty obvious the different philosophies between SA Cervone at UF and Meggs at FSU...
A few highlights:"We try very hard to make sure that student-athletes do not get preferential treatment either way, that they do not get advantaged or disadvantaged because of them having some degree of notoriety within the university,"
That brings us to the cases of former Florida basketball player Teddy Dupay and former FSU quarterback Adrian McPherson.
THE SAME, BUT DIFFERENT
Cervone said misdemeanor gambling charges could have been pursued against both athletes. Asked if their cases are similar, Cervone said, "Yes, globally."
In March, gambling charges were filed against McPherson. Two years ago, after a five-month investigation, they were not filed against Dupay.
McPherson was accused of betting on college and pro sports, including games involving FSU. Earlier this month, a mistrial was declared in the case after a six-person jury failed to agree on a verdict. Prosecutors have said they will try the case again.
Dupay was accused of providing insider information to a friend, then sharing in the profits of bets. Teammates and non-athletes said Dupay told them he won money on bets. Asked if he believes Dupay gambled, Cervone said, "Yes."
But Dupay was not charged.
Cervone said Dupay's expulsion from the team for admitting to violating NCAA rules was punishment enough.
A trial would not have been worth the trouble, he said.
"People are saying that I'm wasting resources processing a misdemeanor," Meggs said, referring to McPherson's lone gambling charge. "But I know we have a misdemeanor division, and we do thousands of them each year. So to me it's not wasting a resource. We hold people accountable if they go out and shoplift at Wal-Mart. If they're apprehended, they're prosecuted. It's not serious, but it's serious to the offender and the victim."
Meggs said he prosecuted McPherson because he had enough evidence. Then he suggested athletes should be held to a higher standard than regular students.
Pretty much just fundamental differences in their philosophy for handling cases.
In January, Meggs charged FSU defensive tackle Darnell Dockett with a felony for accepting discounted clothing at a store owned by former Seminole Warrick Dunn. After pleading guilty to petty theft, a misdemeanor, Dockett will serve 30 days in the sheriff's work camp.
Florida State President T.K. Wetherell has been critical of the way Meggs handled Dockett's case. Wetherell said Meggs should have just offered community service and a misdemeanor plea in the first place.
Those who believe Cervone is soft on Florida athletes often point to facts he does not hide. He has been a Florida football season-ticket holder since 1977, is a season-ticket holder for men's basketball and is a member of the Gainesville Quarterback Club. He also is an adjunct professor at UF's law school, where he taught trial tactics for nearly 20 years.
"In no way has anyone at the university tried to interfere with or tried to influence any of the investigations we've had," Cervone said. "My relationship with [Athletic Director] Jeremy Foley is very good, and all Jeremy has ever asked is to just tell us what's going on so that they don't get caught unaware. So that's what we do.
They don't need to when they already know how you're going to handle it. You probably told them not to.
This isn't just about Dupay and McPherson. Cervone has opted not to press charges in several other cases involving Florida football players. Recently, Cervone brought charges against freshmen Channing Crowder, Steven Harris and Taurean Charles in connection with cases involving violent acts of crime.
This month, a judge allowed Crowder and Harris to plead no contest to their charges, and each was given probation without jail time or mandatory community service.
So even back then violent crimes didn't seem to be a big deal for Cervone. Seems that culture hasn't changed much.
"At least in this community, people who have no record are not going to jail," Cervone said. "That's the way it is. . . . There is a perception that they [athletes] get treated differently, and how you convince people that is not so is something I really don't have the answer to."
So apparently even anyone here who doesn't have a record can go to Gainesville and pretty much get away with just about anything just like UF athletes do without jail time. Yeah, I believe that...
Former wide receiver Jabar Gaffney was accused of choking and trying to drown a youth who had stolen his scooter but was not charged. "It was my belief that anybody who caught somebody stealing their stuff and chased him and held him down for the cops would never be convicted by a jury of anything," Cervone said.
So apparently "drowning" has a new definition in Gainesville as "holding them down for the cops."
Bowden has compared McPherson's case to Dupay's, wondering aloud why an investigative report on his former quarterback was 800 pages while one on Dupay was 48 pages.
"That's almost like saying that a professor grades papers by throwing them down the stairs and the heavier ones that go further get the A's," Cervone said.
Meggs, who said he "didn't even have the time," to read all 800 pages of the McPherson report, has come to realize that no matter what he does, he'll be criticized.
Interesting it was 800 pages. Our Congressional Report on our Prewar Intelligence on Iraq was only 511 pages.
Cervone doesn't hide his compassion for high-profile athletes, stating, "Student-athletes, because of their visibility, are subject not only to the adulation they get on the one side, but also the criticism they get on the other side. And sometimes it puts them in a situation where they do something that's criminal, but understandable."
So because of their visibility, it puts them in situations to do something criminal? Some of the rationalizations UF people have just boggle my mind. No wonder their fans are so delusional and talk such stupid crap. It starts at the top. I guess being visible caused Hernandez to kill those people. Makes sense. It's a wonder Hollywood with all their high visibility stars isn't the crime capital of the world. Probably because that actually makes no sense.
"Let me make this clear," Cervone said. "I don't care who needs who to play on Saturday or Wednesday. I'm a fan and I prefer to watch them [Florida] win, but I don't care.
For not caring you certainly give them the best possible chance to win you can by allowing the best players to play regardless of what they do off the field.
"Frankly, I'm not interested in watching a team full of criminals. And I'm not interested in watching the university I graduated from represented by a bunch of criminals."
LOL WHAT?!?! That's exactly what you're doing and you were/are accessory to it! Hypocrite.
Pretty safe to say when it comes to legalities, FSU and UF are not on the same level with their athletes.