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« : July 13, 2013, 04:39:53 PM »

PFT Preseason Power Rankings No. 24: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Posted by Darin Gantt on July 13, 2013, 9:00 AM EDT

Maybe it’s something in the NFC South water.

But like their neighbors the Panthers, the Buccaneers are a team that it’s hard to find a consensus on this offseason.

On one hand, they aggressively addressed their biggest weakness from last year. At the same time, they’ve left the biggest question for the future of any franchise dangling awkwardly.

So as much as you want to like their chances based on adding legitimate stars such as cornerback Darrelle Revis and safety Dashon Goldson, everything they’re doing this year will hinge on the performance of quarterback Josh Freeman.

If they get Good Freeman, there’s no reason to think they can’t be a playoff team.

If they get Bad Freeman, they could sink, and be forced to start over with a new quarterback at a time when many of the other pieces are well in place, and match the style of their second-year coach, Greg Schiano.

Strengths.

The Bucs have the capability to be both balanced and explosive on offense.

Wide receiver Vincent Jackson averaged 19.2 yards per catch last year, and running back Doug Martin was nothing short of a revelation, with more than 1,900 yards from scrimmage.

Once they get Pro Bowl guards Carl Nicks and Davin Joseph back on the field, it should help create more opportunities for Martin.

But the most unlikely strength, considering they were last in the league in pass defense last year, is the secondary.

Making a trade with the Jets for Revis and signing former 49ers standout Goldson to yet another free agent splash deal should solidify things, and help second-year safety Mark Barron grow into the player he appeared close to turning into at times last year. They went from a disaster to good enough that there wasn’t room for Ronde Barber, so the improvement is clear.

Weaknesses.

If they apply the same approach next offseason, the Bucs will obviously be loading up on defensive linemen.

They let defensive end Michael Bennett and nose tackle Roy Miller walk away, without apparent (or at least established) replacements on hand.

Miller’s an easier fix, but Bennett led the team with 9.0 sacks last year, putting all the eggs in the broken baskets that are Da’Quan Bowers and Adrian Clayborn.

Both have shown flashes of being good pass-rushers, but neither has proven they can stay on the field, with Clayborn’s ACL and Bowers’ Achilles only the latest problems.

If they can’t stay well, the Bucs are dangerously thin up front.

Changes.

Taking a wrecking ball to the secondary was the main one, unless you consider letting Freeman twist.

Letting him enter the final year of his rookie contract is a final prove-it play by the organization, and it’s either going to cost them time or money.

When Freeman is on (2010, first half of last year), he’s all the quarterback a good team needs.

When he’s not (2011, late last year), he’s well short of the guy you stake a franchise to.

If Freeman comes up with a good season, the Bucs will be forced to cough up the money or franchise him.

But the way coach Greg Schiano played word games this offseason — saying rookie Mike Glennon had a chance to start, then saying Freeman was his guy — makes it clear that it’s all just a motivational ploy.

It might be genius. It might cost them more money.

It better work.

Camp Battles.

The Bucs have a few slots that couldn’t be filled by big-ticket buys.

They have an odd cast of defensive tackles trying to replace Miller, and fourth-round rookie Akeem Spence has as good a chance as any. Otherwise, they have a group of Panthers cast-offs including Gary Gibson, Derek Landri and Andre Neblett.

There’s also a vacancy at strongside linebacker, after Quincy Black’s neck injury. Someone from the group including Adam Hayward, Jonathan Casillas and Dekoda Watson will need to emerge to round out an acceptable group.

They’re also looking for someone to make the tight end position his own, with either former Packer Tom Crabtree or Luke Stocker the leading candidates, though the offense isn’t such that they’re counting on either being a regular target.

Prospects.

The degree to which their entire season hinges on Freeman is fascinating, and layered.

Keeping the offensive system in place should help, but the pressure of knowing your own financial future and the direction of a franchise sits on your shoulders has to be a burden.

The Bucs have done a good job of putting parts in place around Freeman to make it easier to succeed, specifically by giving him a second year with offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan. That kind of stability is necessary for him to develop confidence.

At the same time, there are enough questions up front to make you wonder whether the big expenditures in the back will help.

As good as Revis is, if quarterbacks are never pressured, opponents will find cornerback Eric Wright’s guy more easily.

They’ve done an admirable job of addressing needs, but it’s still unclear if they’ve built on a stable foundation.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/13/pft-preseason-power-rankings-no-24-tampa-bay-buccaneers/


The analysis seems pretty well thought out, the ranking doesn't!!

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 I thought Lovie said he wanted quickness & speed, even at the QB position?

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« #1 : July 13, 2013, 04:44:02 PM »

Best to hedge your bets with such an enigmatic team like the Bucs.

But I have already stated that this team can surprise some people this season. Ball control.


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« #2 : July 13, 2013, 04:51:03 PM »

The Bucs were better than the 24th best team in the league last year without all these insane upgrades. PFT is so awful at this type of stuff. Based on last year, they belong in the 16-20 range. Predicting what will happen this year (which is pointless to begin with but fun I guess) they should be in the 12-16 range, conservatively. I'm not worried though. The Bucs will be number 1 when its all said and done this year. REVIS!!!!

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« #3 : July 13, 2013, 05:06:13 PM »

I love all the disrespect we are getting. Makes me excited. Now if we were being hailed as the "Dream Team" and being considered Super Bowl favorites....I'd be nervous!


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« #4 : July 13, 2013, 05:12:18 PM »

The rest of this list so far....


32nd - Raiders
31st - Browns
30th - Jags
29th - Cardinals
28th - Bills
27th - Jets
26th - Eagles
25th - Panthers
24th - Bucs
23rd - Dolphins


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« #5 : July 13, 2013, 05:12:35 PM »

Huh?....What?....Does that mean the Bucs are no longer Paper Champions?

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« #6 : July 13, 2013, 05:18:58 PM »

PFT seems to be saying we're a 5-7 win team. I feel like we're closer to a 9-12 win team with an outside shot at the playoffs.



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« #7 : July 13, 2013, 05:22:44 PM »

Apparently the consensus is that we are a 5-11 team.


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« #8 : July 13, 2013, 05:38:17 PM »

Not for nothing, I am real excited about this year but honestly have you guys seen who we are playing. I believe we can be really good but we have some really good competition

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« #9 : July 13, 2013, 05:49:13 PM »

"If they get good Freeman...

If they get bad Freeman..."

Pretty sure it's a package deal.

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« #10 : July 13, 2013, 08:57:20 PM »

"If they get good Freeman...

If they get bad Freeman..."

Pretty sure it's a package deal.
Nah, it's one or the other depending on which Sunday you're watching.

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« #11 : July 13, 2013, 09:14:08 PM »

As said in the OP...it is a decent analysis from a national outlet that's covers all teams...but the ranking is a tad too low.


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« #12 : July 13, 2013, 09:29:31 PM »

As said in the OP...it is a decent analysis from a national outlet that's covers all teams...but the ranking is a tad too low.



Its about right IMO.  We are all homers so we expect a top 10 ranking AT LEAST !

But the team has not done anything yet. When they start winning games in 2013 people will start to notice.  There is something to be said for being under the radar.



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« #13 : July 13, 2013, 09:32:02 PM »

Its about right IMO.  We are all homers so we expect a top 10 ranking AT LEAST !

No way do i think we're top 10 YET... but we sure as hell aren't 24th.

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« #14 : July 13, 2013, 09:35:19 PM »

Yea...there is a big gap between 10 and 24.....not sure if thinking they should be in the 19-20 range is "homeristic".

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