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« : August 29, 2013, 11:11:44 AM »

AS GUN SALES SOAR, GUN CRIMES PLUMMET

A couple of new studies reveal the gun-control hypesters’ worst nightmare…more people are buying firearms, while firearm-related homicides and suicides are steadily diminishing. What crackpots came up with these conclusions? One set of statistics was compiled by the U.S. Department of Justice. The other was reported by the Pew Research Center.
According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years, from 18,253 during 1993, to 11,101 in 2011. During the same period, non-fatal firearm crimes decreased even more, a whopping 69 percent. The majority of those declines in both categories occurred during the first 10 years of that time frame. Firearm homicides declined from 1993 to 1999, rose through 2006, and then declined again through 2011. Non-fatal firearm violence declined from 1993 through 2004, then fluctuated in the mid-to-late 2000s.
And where did the bad people who did the shooting get most of their guns? Were those gun show “loopholes” responsible? Nope. According to surveys DOJ conducted of state prison inmates during 2004 (the most recent year of data available), only two percent who owned a gun at the time of their offense bought it at either a gun show or flea market. About 10 percent said they purchased their gun from a retail shop or pawnshop, 37 percent obtained it from family or friends, and another 40 percent obtained it from an illegal source.
While firearm violence accounted for about 70 percent of all homicides between 1993 and 2011, guns were used in less than 10 percent of all non-fatal violent crimes. Between 70 percent and 80 percent of those firearm homicides involved a handgun, and 90 percent of non-fatal firearm victimizations were committed with a handgun. Males, blacks, and persons aged 18-24 had the highest firearm homicide rates.

The March Pew study, drawn from numbers obtained from the Bureau of Justice Statistics and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, also found a dramatic drop in gun crime over the past two decades. Their accounting shows a 49 percent decline in the homicide rate, and a 75 percent decline of non-fatal violent crime victimization. More than 8 in 10 gun homicide victims in 2010 were men and boys. Fifty-five percent of the homicide victims were black, far beyond their 13 percent share of the population.
Pew researchers observed that the huge amount of attention devoted to gun violence incidents in the media has caused most Americans to be unaware that gun crime is “strikingly down” from 20 years ago. In fact, gun-related homicides in the late 2000s were “equal to those not seen since the early 1960s.” Yet their survey found that 56 percent believed gun-related crime is higher, 26 percent believed it stayed about the same, and 6 percent didn’t know.  Only 12 percent of those polled thought it was lower.
The Pew survey found that while women and elderly were actually less likely to become crime victims, they were more likely to believe gun crime had increased in recent years. On the other hand, men, who were more likely to become victims, were more likely know that the gun rate had dropped.
Those gun crime rates certainly aren’t diminishing for lack of supply…at least not for law-abiding legal buyers. Last December, the FBI recorded a record number of 2.78 million background checks for purchases that month, surpassing a 2.01 million mark set the month before by about 39 percent. That December 2012 figure, in turn, was up 49 percent from a previous record on that month the year before. FBI checks for all of 2012 totaled 19.6 million, an annual record, and an increase of 19 percent over 2011.
Firearms sellers can thank the gun-control legislation lobbies for much of this business windfall. Marked demand increases have been witnessed over the past five years thanks to the 2008 and 2012 elections of U.S. history’s most successful, if unintentional, gun salesman as president. The firearms market got a huge added boost after the tragic shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newton, Connecticut activated a renewed legislative frenzy.
If that gun-purchasing fervor has abated with the defeat of several congressional regulation proposals, as I’m sure it has, you surely wouldn’t have known it by witnessing the overwhelmingly enormous annual NRA convention in Houston earlier this month. Attendance was estimated to be more than 70,000 people from all over the country.
Those attendees weren’t all guys either…not by a long shot. Last year, the National Shooting Sports Foundation reported that participation by women increased both in target shooting (46.5%) and hunting (36.6%) over the past decade. Also, 61% of firearm retailers responding to a NSSF survey reported an increase in female customers. A 2009 NSSF survey indicated that the number of women purchasing guns for personal defense increased a whopping 83 percent.
Is John Lott, the author of “More Guns, Less Crime” right? Does the rapid growth of gun ownership and armed citizens have anything to do with a diminishing gun violence trend? His expansive research concludes that state “shall issue” laws which allow citizens to carry concealed weapons do produce a steady decrease in violent crime. He explains that this is logical because criminals are deterred by the risk of attacking an armed target, so as more citizens arm themselves, danger to the criminals increases.
Whether or not you buy that reasoning, and it does make sense to me, what about the notion that tougher gun laws have or would make any difference? With the toughest gun laws in the nation, Chicago saw homicides jump to 513 in 2012, a 15% hike in a single year. The city’s murder rate is 15.65 per 100,000 people, compared with 4.5 for the Midwest, and 5.6 for Illinois.
Up to 80 percent of Chicago murders and non-fatal shootings are gang- related, primarily young black and Hispanic men killed by other black and Hispanic men. Would tightening gun laws even more, or “requiring” background checks, change these conditions?
Gwainevere Catchings Hess, president of the Black Women’s Agenda (BWA), Inc., an organization that strongly advocates strict gun-control legislation, rightly points out that  “In 2009, black males ages 15-19 were eight times as likely as white males the same age, and 2.5 times as likely as their Hispanic peers to be killed in a gun homicide.”
Those are terrible statistics, but here are some others. Today, 72% of black children are born out of wedlock, as are 53% of Hispanic children and 36% of white children. Back in 1965, 25% of black children were born out of wedlock, nearly one-third fewer. As a result, promiscuous rappers, prosperous dope peddlers and street gang leaders are becoming ever more influential role models. It’s probably no big stretch of imagination to correlate such grossly disproportionate crime and victimization rates with comparably staggering rates of single-parent families, those without fathers in particular.
Yet in the general population, and although the agenda-driven media hasn’t noticed, we can be grateful that gun violence has been trending downward since 1993 when it hit its last peak. Don’t want to credit a rise in gun ownership and concealed carry by law-abiding citizens for this good news? Fine. But then, don’t imagine that gun legislation is the reason or answer either. Leave that illusion to gun-control cheerleaders in the media.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05/14/disarming-realities-as-gun-sales-soar-gun-crimes-plummet/
« : September 03, 2013, 10:35:22 AM Von Mises »

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« #1 : August 29, 2013, 11:28:01 AM »

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According to DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. gun-related homicides dropped 39 percent over the course of 18 years, from 18,253 during 1993, to 11,101 in 2011. During the same period, non-fatal firearm crimes decreased even more, a whopping 69 percent.


Yes but those are murder rates and non-fatal firearm crimes. The subject is GUN VIOLENCE


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« #2 : August 29, 2013, 11:33:50 AM »

Are you ready for the show, Mr. G?
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« #3 : August 29, 2013, 11:51:17 AM »

Sorry, football is upon us

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« #4 : August 29, 2013, 12:01:58 PM »

Sorry, football is upon us

Surrender and cowardly flight noted.

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« #6 : August 29, 2013, 12:18:24 PM »

Sorry, football is upon us

Surrender and cowardly flight noted.


lol - - - it's really important to you isn't it? Get it where you can, I guess.

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« #7 : August 29, 2013, 12:25:52 PM »

Sorry, football is upon us

Surrender and cowardly flight noted.

Btw, if there was ever any doubt about how much I am in your head and the heads of the other Misfits, just look at what one simple post like this does to you and Buggsy, sent you guys reeling . . . .  what are the two of you (and the rest) going to do this football season . .  on this football message board  .. .   oh . . . the pain and sense of loss you must all be feeling . . . .lol

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« #8 : August 29, 2013, 12:32:15 PM »

I thought the good Counselor was too busy to post all of the sudden?  How is he able to post multiple times in multiple threads with it being the 4th preseason game tonight?


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« #9 : August 29, 2013, 01:34:21 PM »

 "sent you guys reeling ..."

Oh we're reeling alright, reeling with laughter. And you wanna hear the best part? Remember the thread about the DOJ study I posted on June 19?
http://www.pewterreport.com/Boards/index.php/topic,1306074.0/nowap.html
The same Google search that brought up that article brought up this one. They were one and two. I've been sitting on this the entire time, watching you paint yourself into the corner. But, amusing as your dance of idiocy has been, it's over. All over but the crying.

You enjoy that fourth preseason game now, it's the big one!
« : September 03, 2013, 10:38:13 AM Von Mises »

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« #10 : August 31, 2013, 03:47:10 PM »

Another non-conforming paper. 

\"A Great Coach has to have a Patient Wife, A Loyal Dog, and a Great Quarterback. . . . but not necessarily in that order\" ~ Coach Bud Grant

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« #11 : September 03, 2013, 10:39:53 AM »

You still too busy to post in the Cove, Vin?

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« #12 : September 03, 2013, 10:48:07 AM »

You still too busy to post in the Cove, Vin?

Who said anything about "too busy"? I just said its football season now so there are other sources of entertainment . . . thank goodness.  I think it is sweet that you miss me so much though.

By the way, are you going to add a poll to this thread (which is now apparently about me-lmao) asking whether people want to shoot me in the face?

roflmao  - - - its a good thing your little blunder didn't sting . . .  I mean I'd hate to see you obsess about tryoing to recover from it ;-)

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« #13 : September 03, 2013, 12:03:16 PM »

So are you ready to admit that your "MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE" truism turned out to be a lieism? Or are you going to keep up the pathetic farce in spite of direct evidence proving you wrong?

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« #14 : September 03, 2013, 12:20:18 PM »

So are you ready to admit that your "MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE" truism turned out to be a lieism? Or are you going to keep up the pathetic farce in spite of direct evidence proving you wrong?

lol, that ^^ sure is a feeble attempt.

My posts are there for anyone to see, it's not my job to entertain you.  You need to get a woman (or a man, if that's your thing) or maybe go back to beating down your nephew  . .  hey, I got it . .  entertain yourself by starting another poll . . . or maybe discuss 9/11 with Durango . .  or better yet, run "upstairs" and start another disucssion with Java about Freeman's sexuality . . .

oh wait . . . yeah, you might not want to take my advice on that last one! lol
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