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#90 : September 18, 2013, 10:08:42 AM

What definitions, and revisions? That article is clearly just statistics, showing an upward trend. I'm not making any suggestion on why the planet is getting warmer, but it is, and has been for over 100 years.

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#91 : September 18, 2013, 10:17:12 AM

Here is another link. http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence   I tend to trust NASA.
 "Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."



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#92 : September 18, 2013, 11:12:41 AM

Still missing the big picture. Rainforests gone = Earth's carbon control system ineffective.

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#93 : September 18, 2013, 01:31:57 PM

Here is another link. http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence   I tend to trust NASA.
 "Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."

Nice to see at least a couple of people on this thread don't subscribe to the psycho-paranoid idea that global warming is some kind of worldwide socialist conspiracy. Thank you.

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#94 : September 18, 2013, 02:11:05 PM

Here is another link. http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence   I tend to trust NASA.
 "Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."

Nice to see at least a couple of people on this thread don't subscribe to the psycho-paranoid idea that global warming is some kind of worldwide socialist conspiracy. Thank you.

lol, weren't you commenting earlier about the challenges to having a meaningful discussion on the topic?



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#95 : September 18, 2013, 02:34:02 PM

Let's see, scientists representing the UN have come to the conclusion the programs were WRONG, the data (which was iffy according to some scientists) is misused bc of the faulty programs, and the predicted outcomes are not going to come anywhere near the apocalypse predicted by the faulty programs (and iffy data).  This is the UN report, not a pyscho-paranoid socialist conspiracy.  So you get good news and wish to be pissed and contrary - that's fine - so how's that 'settled science' discussion going? 

Perhaps NASA and UN scientists should talk it out. They seem to have a difference in opinion.

And Bucfucious - whose not for leaving the Tropical Rain Forests alone? 

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#96 : September 18, 2013, 02:39:08 PM

Here is another link. http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence   I tend to trust NASA.
 "Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."

Nice to see at least a couple of people on this thread don't subscribe to the psycho-paranoid idea that global warming is some kind of worldwide socialist conspiracy. Thank you.

lol, weren't you commenting earlier about the challenges to having a meaningful discussion on the topic?

I'm not labeling all opposing points of view in this manner, at least I don't intend to... Again, apologies if the comment came across that way... The socialist conspiracy angle does seem to be a popular one though, and is one that I wholeheartedly and categorically reject. That position isn't even worth a second of my time.

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#97 : September 18, 2013, 02:56:04 PM

What definitions, and revisions? That article is clearly just statistics, showing an upward trend. I'm not making any suggestion on why the planet is getting warmer, but it is, and has been for over 100 years.

Yeah...that's what tends to happen when coming out of a little ice age....the earth tends to warm up, all on it's own.

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#98 : September 18, 2013, 03:10:08 PM

 "And Bucfucious - whose not for leaving the Tropical Rain Forests alone?"

The people who are burning them down at a record pace? Eighty percent of them are already gone. Eighty **CENSORED**ing percent! All of the carbon they contained was released into the atmosphere. The remaining twenty percent has little chance of capturing carbon at a rate that can keep up with its current output.

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#99 : September 18, 2013, 04:03:01 PM

"And Bucfucious - whose not for leaving the Tropical Rain Forests alone?"

The people who are burning them down at a record pace? Eighty percent of them are already gone. Eighty **CENSORED**ing percent! All of the carbon they contained was released into the atmosphere. The remaining twenty percent has little chance of capturing carbon at a rate that can keep up with its current output.
Thought I missed that in the thread earlier...

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#100 : September 19, 2013, 12:41:10 AM

Pumping 6 billion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year, with continued deforestation, leaves it pretty obvious to me that human being are changing the climate.

This debate will never end, and people will rarely switch sides. It reminds me of the atheist vs Christianity arguments.

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#101 : September 19, 2013, 01:54:01 AM

What definitions, and revisions? That article is clearly just statistics, showing an upward trend. I'm not making any suggestion on why the planet is getting warmer, but it is, and has been for over 100 years.
Did you even skim the article that is preceding the release of the UN report?  I won't insult you by going back and highlighting the article.

The temperature of the planet does change - for a variety of time periods and reasons.  Neither man-made global warming or apocalyptic global warming predictions are simply not settled science.  That is the point - that was the discussion you wandered into as presented buccaneerNW.  Naturally if you can't accept the report and choose to use the NASA report as a predictor you will remain one who finds there is nothing that even leads to a question...

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#102 : September 19, 2013, 02:08:45 AM

Yes, I know climate gradually changes on it's own over thousands of year intervals. What I posted with my 2nd article shows the unprecedented explosion of CO2 concentrations in our atmosphere, coincidentally, coming at the same time as our ability to tap into fossil fuels.

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#103 : September 19, 2013, 10:49:32 AM

Pumping 6 billion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere every year, with continued deforestation, leaves it pretty obvious to me that human being are changing the climate.

This debate will never end, and people will rarely switch sides. It reminds me of the atheist vs Christianity arguments.

Possibly more like the confusion of Scientific fact with Scientific assumption  with most certainly treating speculative theory more like faith than real scientific methodology.

Certainly there has been a warming trend going on for over 100 years and cooling trend for 15 years followed by a anomalous? increase  in the polar ice sheet last year.

Not sure you can make the "assumption" that human beings are changing the climate.   A doesn't necessarily equal such an extreme as B.

Point is every human on this planet and all animal life contribute to CO2 levels rising.   If indeed that is the cause of Global warming than all animal life including man must be exterminated.

Ironically funny that of course such a logical solution is never brought up!   :o   That certainly sends out a red flag to me.  8)

There is a false assumption that both sides are being ethical and honest with their points.  Grant research money is tied to agreeing with" the Global Warming is man made crowd". I ask you honestly if your paycheck and living depended on you stating this as an absolute fact what would you do?   While I use to really lean that the fossil industry was the bad seed in all this my opinion has changed.  Throughout the whole issue the fossil fuel industry has not suffered at all. I don't believe they are heavily funding the opposition.    I continue to believe this is mostly for only one purpose.... keep that US grant money coming in from the US taxpayer.

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#104 : September 19, 2013, 10:52:52 AM

What definitions, and revisions? That article is clearly just statistics, showing an upward trend. I'm not making any suggestion on why the planet is getting warmer, but it is, and has been for over 100 years.
Did you even skim the article that is preceding the release of the UN report?  I won't insult you by going back and highlighting the article.

The temperature of the planet does change - for a variety of time periods and reasons.  Neither man-made global warming or apocalyptic global warming predictions are simply not settled science.  That is the point - that was the discussion you wandered into as presented buccaneerNW.  Naturally if you can't accept the report and choose to use the NASA report as a predictor you will remain one who finds there is nothing that even leads to a question...

Neither man-made global warming or apocalyptic global warming predictions are  settled science.  That is the point   Fixed it for you...

And by far the most crucial point.   Scientific fact is not determined by majority opinion especially when that opinion is tied to money being received.
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