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« : September 12, 2013, 05:16:58 AM »

Shaun King says there’s “a lot of disarray in Tampa"
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Posted by Mike Florio on September 11, 2013, 7:55 PM EDT

On Wednesday afternoon, we reported that the Buccaneers already have conducted a players-only meeting.  It happened not after an ugly and undisciplined loss to the Jets in Week One, but before the regular season even opened.

One of the concerns, we reported, was the legitimacy of the vote that resulted in quarterback Josh Freeman losing his role as a captain after three years with the designation.

Former Buccaneers quarterback Shaun King, who now contributes to NBCSN’s Pro Football Talk and still lives in the Tampa area, addressed the issue on Tuesday’s show.

“It speaks to a deeper issue,” King said.  “There’s a lot of disarray in Tampa.  One of the points being that some of the players felt like there was an unfair counting of the captain vote, feeling like Josh Freeman should have remained a captain. . . . Greg Schiano is a micromanager, and it’s starting to wear thin with some of their veteran players.”

King said the problem is that Schiano comes from a college program that wasn’t highly successful.

“When it comes to college coaches making the transition to the pros, it’s very difficult . . . when the college coach never won anything of significance in college.  [When] Greg Schiano was hired, he was 20 games under .500 in the Big East at Rutgers.  Those are real numbers, so I don’t think those guys are currently buying into that ‘my way or the highway’ style.”

Ross Tucker, who spent seven seasons in the NFL, shed a little light on the topic, too.

“I talked to guys on the Buccaneers this summer.  I said, ‘What’s up with the quarterback kneel-down thing, where you have to dive at the legs?” Tucker said, regarding Tampa’s habit of attacking the offensive line when in victory formation.  “They just shook their head. . . .  When you ask NFL players to do things that they know is bogus, that they know is bush league, that’s not a good thing.”

So has Schiano lost the team?

“It’s close,” King opined.

“It doesn’t sound good when you have a players-only meeting before the first game,” Tucker added.  “I’ve never heard of that.”

The situation reminds us of our report from December 2012 that one of the players said privately, “Can we send these coaches back to college?“  This year, the sentiment seems to be percolating a lot earlier.

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« #1 : September 12, 2013, 06:59:43 AM »

King is right, it's close.

But after losing the next two, I'm sure they'll be ready to tank the season.

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« #2 : September 12, 2013, 07:48:12 AM »

Whew, I was starting to get worried.  But if King says that things are in disarray, everything must be fine after all.

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« #3 : September 12, 2013, 08:15:52 AM »

Whew, I was starting to get worried.  But if King says that things are in disarray, everything must be fine after all.

If he doesn't win this weekend...you can bet he has lost it.


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« #4 : September 12, 2013, 08:17:53 AM »

The bad thing is this is starting to have that 1000 whispers of problems thing that we had going in 2011 when everything was fine right up until we lost all 4 engine and spiraled into the ocean.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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« #5 : September 12, 2013, 08:19:31 AM »

smoke/fire, you know that old thing.


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« #6 : September 12, 2013, 08:22:18 AM »

King sucks. He just reiterated what has been said on this board already.

The Tucker comment was interesting. The players don't buy into the v formation crashing...


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« #7 : September 12, 2013, 08:25:05 AM »

The Tucker comment was interesting. The players don't buy into the v formation crashing...
It should have been obvious from the beginning but of course all the homers thought it was the coolest thing ever.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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« #8 : September 12, 2013, 08:39:05 AM »

Why did I think he was going to be a good quarterback once upon a time? Does drinking do that? I should get checked out.

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« #9 : September 12, 2013, 08:40:53 AM »

I store my opinions of what Shaun King thinks right next to my toilet paper.

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« #10 : September 12, 2013, 08:46:15 AM »

Quote from: BucNY
I store my opinions of what Shaun King thinks right next to my toilet paper.

Wait, so do you store reading material right next to your toilet paper? Because I know some people do. I wasn't sure where you were going with this.  :D

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« #11 : September 12, 2013, 08:48:10 AM »

It certainly looked like disarray last Sunday but Shaun King is an idiot.

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« #12 : September 12, 2013, 09:06:59 AM »

He won what, about five bowls? His point is erroneous. Very good college coach. One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other. That he is a lousy NFL HC so far is a totally different animal.

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« #13 : September 12, 2013, 09:16:20 AM »

He won what, about five bowls? His point is erroneous. Very good college coach. One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other. That he is a lousy NFL HC so far is a totally different animal.
I tend to agree. Winning more games in college doesn't make you a better NFL coach. Having the brains to make big picture decisions and personality to manage the egos and talents of 50 players and 20 coaches makes you a good NFL coach.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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« #14 : September 12, 2013, 09:40:23 AM »

The Tucker comment was interesting. The players don't buy into the v formation crashing...
It should have been obvious from the beginning but of course all the homers thought it was the coolest thing ever.

Tucker went to Princeton.  If you know football history, you'll figure the agenda.

I did notice that Coughlin wasn't above trying an onside kick at the end of his game on Sunday.  Far more dangerous than... you know.. actually playing out a down from scrimmage.

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