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#30 : September 22, 2013, 06:36:33 PM

That receiving crew looked like a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest.


A crappy QB will make his WRs look like that.  A good QB will find a way to make them look good.

Why would I disagree. Nonetheless, these are two separate issues.

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#31 : September 22, 2013, 06:37:10 PM

brady has a guy named dobson, edelman, and thompkins.  which one is the star WR?  which is the pretty darn good WR?  which one is the TE?  which one is the slot?

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#32 : September 22, 2013, 06:37:44 PM

That receiving crew looked like a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest.


A crappy QB will make his WRs look like that.  A good QB will find a way to make them look good.

Why would I disagree. Nonetheless, these are two separate issues.

+1

Dom needs to be fired for ignoring the importance of slot WR/TE.

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#33 : September 22, 2013, 06:38:23 PM

brady has a guy named dobson, edelman, and thompkins.  which one is the star WR?  which is the pretty darn good WR?  which one is the TE?  which one is the slot?

Edelman is the slot guy.  Gronk returns soon too.


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#34 : September 22, 2013, 06:41:14 PM

Its as if NFL defenses caught up to Mike Sullivan late last season and never looked back.

They caught up to Freeman in 2011.  We fooled them for a bit in 2012, but now we can no longer hide the suck that is Josh Freeman.  The book is out.
Shouldn't Schiano have seen that coming?

You keep saying that, and I keep asking you, "what should he have done?" and you never answer.  What long term solution was out there?

We tried to at least take a shot at addressing it with Glennon.  Hell, the plan all along may have been to bench Josh at the bye.
I don't know what the long term solution is. I can't see the future. I just know you can't do the same thing over and over again when it isn't working and just hope for it to start working.

Sometimes you don't have much of a choice.  Not much point complaining that someone didn't fix a problem when they didn't have an opportunity to do so.  And maybe Glennon works out.
If Schiano wanted Freeman gone, he had an entire offseason to replace him.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#35 : September 22, 2013, 06:42:59 PM

Sometimes you don't have much of a choice.  Not much point complaining that someone didn't fix a problem when they didn't have an opportunity to do so.  And maybe Glennon works out.

Then the HC needs to quit screwing around with a QB he knows isn't his guy.  If Glennon is his guy, play him.  No excuses.


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#36 : September 22, 2013, 06:45:00 PM

The lack of depth on this team is glaring, one guy does down and the whole team falls apart. Entire staff has to go.

Including Mark Dummynik

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#37 : September 22, 2013, 06:46:33 PM

Its as if NFL defenses caught up to Mike Sullivan late last season and never looked back.

They caught up to Freeman in 2011.  We fooled them for a bit in 2012, but now we can no longer hide the suck that is Josh Freeman.  The book is out.
Shouldn't Schiano have seen that coming?

You keep saying that, and I keep asking you, "what should he have done?" and you never answer.  What long term solution was out there?

We tried to at least take a shot at addressing it with Glennon.  Hell, the plan all along may have been to bench Josh at the bye.
I don't know what the long term solution is. I can't see the future. I just know you can't do the same thing over and over again when it isn't working and just hope for it to start working.

Sometimes you don't have much of a choice.  Not much point complaining that someone didn't fix a problem when they didn't have an opportunity to do so.  And maybe Glennon works out.
If Schiano wanted Freeman gone, he had an entire offseason to replace him.

And, yet again, what was he going to replace him with?  Carson Palmer?  Another Journeyman that would be just good enough to prevent us from getting a shot at a great QB for anther 4 years? 


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#38 : September 22, 2013, 06:49:51 PM

We'd be 2-1 with Carson Palmer though.

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#39 : September 22, 2013, 06:50:20 PM

We'd be 2-1 with Carson Palmer though.

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#40 : September 22, 2013, 06:50:34 PM

Its as if NFL defenses caught up to Mike Sullivan late last season and never looked back.

They caught up to Freeman in 2011.  We fooled them for a bit in 2012, but now we can no longer hide the suck that is Josh Freeman.  The book is out.
Shouldn't Schiano have seen that coming?

You keep saying that, and I keep asking you, "what should he have done?" and you never answer.  What long term solution was out there?

We tried to at least take a shot at addressing it with Glennon.  Hell, the plan all along may have been to bench Josh at the bye.
I don't know what the long term solution is. I can't see the future. I just know you can't do the same thing over and over again when it isn't working and just hope for it to start working.

Sometimes you don't have much of a choice.  Not much point complaining that someone didn't fix a problem when they didn't have an opportunity to do so.  And maybe Glennon works out.
If Schiano wanted Freeman gone, he had an entire offseason to replace him.

And, yet again, what was he going to replace him with?  Carson Palmer?  Another Journeyman that would be just good enough to prevent us from getting a shot at a great QB for anther 4 years?
They want to be stuck middle.

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#41 : September 22, 2013, 06:54:27 PM

brady has a guy named dobson, edelman, and thompkins.  which one is the star WR?  which is the pretty darn good WR?  which one is the TE?  which one is the slot?

Edelman is the slot guy.  Gronk returns soon too.

Speaking of which , can't we find some quick little no-name white guy to become a beast slot WR for us? Like the patriots always do ??

Maybe bring back that Douglas guy from preseason ? LOL

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#42 : September 22, 2013, 06:55:48 PM

brady has a guy named dobson, edelman, and thompkins.  which one is the star WR?  which is the pretty darn good WR?  which one is the TE?  which one is the slot?

Edelman is the slot guy.  Gronk returns soon too.

Speaking of which , can't we find some quick little no-name white guy to become a beast slot WR for us? Like the patriots always do ??

Maybe bring back that Douglas guy from preseason ? LOL

I never understood why they cut Douglas as he looked like the only competent slot guy they had.  He reminded me of Karl Williams..nothing special but he was decent enough.

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#43 : September 22, 2013, 06:57:32 PM

I think there are two different issues here. Yes, we need another WR and a TE or two. And, yes, we should be looking to replace Freeman. Glennon is a pretty raw rookie, so it's hard to feel that he is the answer. Can he do better than Josh right now? I don't know, but I doubt it. Can he develop into a starter. I don't know. Is there going to be a time this season when, raw or not, we'll play Glennon. Probably.

It wasn't all Freeman's fault today--it seemed like many players had a rough day out there. There were times when Freeman delivered only for his receivers to drop the ball. On the other hand, Freeman seemed to be throwing a tad high today and throwing just out of bounds with his sideline passes.

All in all, the Bucs are a terribly frustrating product right now. I like a lot of the individual players, but hate the final line. I can't imagine the Glazers want to put the same product on the field next year. The question is--what changes do they make?

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#44 : September 22, 2013, 06:57:48 PM

Yeah, I don't get why Douglas didn't make it either.
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