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#150 : September 24, 2013, 05:04:00 PM

So you respond to Biggs post by reposting the same lame crap about me?     Taking the board too seriously?    Are you mad vince p b III?

not mad at all, I think its funny that you are actually such a coward apparently that you can't own your own crap.  Even funnier that you cant help yourself from giving me opportunities to point it out . .  over and over again


Olaf is ASHAMED of himself because not only did he lose control over a discussion on a football message board .. and not only did he take the time to research who I was (you can meet me in person at a G2G-lol).  .. . but he did ALL OF THAT . . . .  wait for it  . . . . BECAUSE . . .he wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was .  . and the reason for that is because .  . . (don't laugh, keep reading) . . .  because he  thought it would intimidate me. . .  lol

Olaf's so ashamed of himself for doing that that he cant bring himself to admit he did all that even though its all in print.
: September 24, 2013, 05:05:36 PM VinBucFan


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#151 : September 24, 2013, 05:07:31 PM

Did I lose control vince p b III?

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#152 : September 24, 2013, 05:10:36 PM

Did I lose control vince p b III?

Lol, I dont know, did you? I sure hope so. I hope that is not the real you because if so . . . you REALLY REALLY need to seek some professional help.  This is a freaking football message board not Vietnam

Olaf is ASHAMED of himself because not only did he lose control over a discussion on a football message board .. and not only did he take the time to research who I was (you can meet me in person at a G2G-lol).  .. . but he did ALL OF THAT . . . .  wait for it  . . . . BECAUSE . . .he wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was .  . and the reason for that is because .  . . (don't laugh, keep reading) . . .  because he  thought it would intimidate me. . .  lol

Olaf's so ashamed of himself for doing that that he cant bring himself to admit he did all that even though its all in print.


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#153 : September 24, 2013, 05:12:39 PM

Do I need professional help vince p b III?

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#154 : September 24, 2013, 05:16:57 PM

Do I need professional help vince p b III?

Lol, I dont know, do you? I hope STALKING is not the real you because if so . . . you REALLY REALLY need to seek some professional help.  This is a freaking football message board not . . .  Korea

Olaf is ASHAMED of himself because not only did he lose control over a discussion on a football message board .. and not only did he take the time to research who I was (you can meet me in person at a G2G-lol).  .. . but he did ALL OF THAT . . . .  wait for it  . . . . BECAUSE . . .he wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was .  . and the reason for that is because .  . . (don't laugh, keep reading) . . .  because he  thought it would intimidate me. . .  lol

Olaf's so ashamed of himself for doing that that he cant bring himself to admit he did all that even though its all in print.


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#155 : September 24, 2013, 05:18:42 PM

Did I lose control vince p b III?

Olaf . . . you researched me because you wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was, right?  And the reason you wanted to make that clear to me is you thought it would intimidate me, right?


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#156 : September 24, 2013, 05:18:58 PM

Do I need professional help vince p b III?

Olaf . . . you researched me because you wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was, right?  And the reason you wanted to make that clear to me is you thought it would intimidate me, right?


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#157 : September 24, 2013, 05:19:40 PM

Still afraid to answer Olaf?

Olaf . . . you researched me because you wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was, right?  And the reason you wanted to make that clear to me is you thought it would intimidate me, right?

Three times in a row and no response . . . wonder why?


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#158 : September 24, 2013, 05:23:24 PM

Never trust the opinion someone afraid of pork fat nor the belief that desecration is worse than murder.  jmo

Although there was never any real doubt, the fact that Runole is on the side of the Band O' Misfits just makes me feel that much better.. Thanks Runole .. you disagreeing with me is EXACTLY where I want to be.

Thank You for the confirmation of your beliefs.  Does seem a bit conflicted with your stance on guns.     Do you just prefer murder  be done by bombing?    Not on the side of anyone other than those that believe the new laws regarding gun control will decrease murders.   

Please explain why any rational and  intelligent human on the planet should fear pork fat?

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#159 : September 24, 2013, 05:24:10 PM

Actually, not.  Or, rather, nyet.

NPR DEPARTS FROM THE NARRATIVE: Russians have far fewer guns than Americans and far more homicides.

What does it take to get them to depart from the narrative? A jab at President Obama from a foreign leader.
H/T :
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/176399/

..."There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.
The most recent for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.
According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large..."

Just a not too subtle reminder -  ;D

\"A Great Coach has to have a Patient Wife, A Loyal Dog, and a Great Quarterback. . . . but not necessarily in that order\" ~ Coach Bud Grant

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#160 : September 24, 2013, 05:33:09 PM

Actually, not.  Or, rather, nyet.

NPR DEPARTS FROM THE NARRATIVE: Russians have far fewer guns than Americans and far more homicides.

What does it take to get them to depart from the narrative? A jab at President Obama from a foreign leader.
H/T :
http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/176399/

..."There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.
The most recent for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.
According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large..."

Just a not too subtle reminder -  ;D

Filthy, lying and clearly uneducated doctors have done it now . .

Places with higher gun ownership rates also have higher firearms-related deaths, a new study finds.

In the study, published Sept. 20 in the American Journal of Medicine, researchers analyzed gun ownership rates, crime rates and deaths from firearms across 27 developed countries around the world.

"The U.S. has the highest gun ownership rates and also has the highest rate of firearm-related deaths," said study co-author Dr. Sripal Bangalore, a cardiologist at the New York University School of Medicine
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Despite the prevalence of high-profile mass shootings, such as the recent Navy shipyard shooting, where the attacker showed signs of mental illness, the prevalence of mental illness in a society is only weakly correlated with gun-related deaths.

Contentious issue

Gun rights advocates argue that having more guns in society makes people safer by deterring crime and allowing law-abiding citizens to defend themselves against would-be attackers. Gun control proponents argue that guns lead to more violence, not less.

Past studies have shown that gun owners are much likelier to be shot with their own weapons than they are to use it to thwart a crime. Other research has shown that gun laws are linked with lower rates of firearms deaths.

But teasing apart causal factors can be difficult: After all, more people may feel compelled to purchase a gun in a crime-ridden neighborhood, but that doesn't mean the guns themselves cause the violence. And states that pass gun control measures may simply have different cultures than those that enshrine gun rights in their laws.

Cross-country analysis

After several high profile shootings, such as the Newtown, Conn., school shootings, Bangalore and his colleagues wanted to see whether guns actually make people safer, or whether inadequately treated mental health issues played a role.

The team looked at the fraction of people who owned guns across 27 developed nations, including the United States, Switzerland, Finland, Australia and Japan.

Gun ownership was lowest in Japan and highest, by far, in the United States.

Gun ownership rates were strongly correlated with higher death rates from firearms.

In contrast, the incidence of major depression was only weakly linked to firearms-related deaths. (Data on other conditions such as schizophrenia were not widely available.)

And crime didn't seem to be correlated at all with gun ownership rates. That suggests purchasing a gun doesn't have an effect on overall crime rates, which include both violent and non-violent crimes.

"We can show that guns don't make a nation safer," Bangalore said.

The study "provides some very convincing evidence that firearms-related deaths are very strongly correlated with prevalence of guns," said Dr. Eric Fleegler, a health services researcher at Boston Children's Hospital, who was not involved in the study.

Causation difficult

Still, it's difficult to say that gun ownership actually causes more gun violence.

The current study lumped together suicides and homicides.

And countries are very different.

"There are many factors that could influence both gun ownership and homicide rates," said Dr. Michael Siegel, a community health researcher at Boston University School of Public Health, who has separately found that states with more guns have higher murder rates.

One clue for causality comes from Australia, where tighter restrictions on gun ownership were instituted in 1996 and gun-related deaths fell dramatically, Bangalore said.

But the only way to untangle the links between gun ownership and violence is to do studies that track both over time, and that research has been limited because the Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health don't fund gun violence research, Siegel said.


The interesting part to note is the LAST paragraph (in bold). Now, why do you think it is that CDC and NIH dont fund gun violence research?


"Since the 1990s, the powerful pro-gun NRA has targeted the heart of what most legislation is based on: studies about the effects of gun violence.
 Larry Pratt: 'We are on our own' Obamacare limits doctors' gun questions VA Tech survivor on gun violence meeting Giffords takes on NRA
Last year, the NRA used its influence in Florida to push through legislation that would punish doctors if they asked patients whether they owned a gun.
And buried inside President Barack Obama's signature health care legislation is a little-known provision that prevents the government and health insurers from asking about gun ownership.
The NRA says it is simply ensuring that taxpayer money isn't being used to promote a political agenda.
"If gun control groups ... (and) individuals want to further their research, we're not saying they shouldn't be able to do it," NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told CNN. "We're just saying they shouldn't be using public funds to do it."
But public health experts say it's all part of an attempt by the NRA-led pro-gun lobby to hamstring lawmakers.
"If a bunch of people do research and generate solid evidence that suggests firearms policy should be reformed and either firearms or people who used them should be regulated in new ways, (if I'm a gun-rights advocate,) I'm not going to like that," said Dr. Garen Wintemute, head of the violence prevention research program at the University of California at Davis.
"So, I'll simply prevent the evidence from being collected in the first place. It's a brilliant strategy, and (the gun lobby) succeeded."



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#161 : September 24, 2013, 05:34:17 PM

Never trust the opinion someone afraid of pork fat nor the belief that desecration is worse than murder.  jmo

Although there was never any real doubt, the fact that Runole is on the side of the Band O' Misfits just makes me feel that much better.. Thanks Runole .. you disagreeing with me is EXACTLY where I want to be.

Thank You for the confirmation of your beliefs.  Does seem a bit conflicted with your stance on guns.     Do you just prefer murder  be done by bombing?    Not on the side of anyone other than those that believe the new laws regarding gun control will decrease murders.   

Please explain why any rational and  intelligent human on the planet should fear pork fat?

Can't tell you how happy that^^^^ makes me.  Thrilled to be on the opposite side of the issue from Archie Bunker


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#162 : September 24, 2013, 06:42:44 PM

Did I lose control vince p b III?

Olaf . . . you researched me because you wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was, right?  And the reason you wanted to make that clear to me is you thought it would intimidate me, right?

No matter what color you put it in they are both still lies.   That has been stated before, but you don't care.  You will continue to state it over and over and over because you mad vince p b III.   

For those scoring at home or pleasuring yourself in your mom's basement (vin):

Threatened your family = lie
Stalked you off line = lie
Posting your personal information = lie
Trying to intimidate you = lie
Losing control = lie
Clicking on free website for finding Florida attorneys because I wanted to make it clear to you I know who you are = lie


Vin mad = truth

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#163 : September 24, 2013, 06:58:50 PM

Did I lose control vince p b III?

Olaf . . . you researched me because you wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was, right?  And the reason you wanted to make that clear to me is you thought it would intimidate me, right?

No matter what color you put it in they are both still lies. 

Olaf, you're making this too easy . . .  . let me prove that they are both the truth and not lies with one simple question.  Here you go:

If you did not research my identity so you could make clear to me that you knew who I was in an attempt to intimidate me . .  . . then why did you do it?


waiting . . . you said they were lies . . . if they were this would be an extremely easy question for YOU to answer. 

What was the reason to research my identity if not to post a comment to let me know you knew who I was in an attempt to intimidate me?

tick . . .tock . . .tick . . .tock
: September 24, 2013, 07:00:30 PM VinBucFan


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#164 : September 24, 2013, 07:05:39 PM

Did I lose control vince p b III?

Olaf . . . you researched me because you wanted to make it clear to me that you knew who I was, right?  And the reason you wanted to make that clear to me is you thought it would intimidate me, right?

No matter what color you put it in they are both still lies. 

Olaf, you're making this too easy . . .  . let me prove that they are both the truth and not lies with one simple question.  Here you go:

If you did not research my identity so you could make clear to me that you knew who I was in an attempt to intimidate me . .  . . then why did you do it?


waiting . . . you said they were lies . . . if they were this would be an extremely easy question for YOU to answer. 

What was the reason to research my identity if not to post a comment to let me know you knew who I was in an attempt to intimidate me?

tick . . .tock . . .tick . . .tock

lol . . . it shouldve been a very easy question to answer if my questions were lies . . . but so far:


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