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#45 : October 27, 2013, 06:42:09 PM

Watching this Missouri game.. Clowney is way overrated. He's probably not even the best DE on the field.

No one should ever call this dude a once in a decade prospect.
I only watched a little of the game, but from what I saw Clowney was blowing past the left tackle on every play. The problem is in college football they run the ball 60% of the time and often when they pass they get rid of the ball in half a second or roll out the QB away so Mizzou was largely able to neutralize him. In the NFL the QBs throw 60% of the time and most of the time they're throwing, the QB is at that spot just past where the left tackle sets up.

Clowney is not that exceptional of a college player because his skills don't 100% suit what college offenses do. He's an exceptional pro prospect because his skills suit exactly what pro teams need. He's built to disrupt 5 and 7-step drops.
I've not seen anything out of Clowney that would make me believe he is an exceptional NFL prospect other than measurable's. I don't see any creative moves and most of the time I see laziness.

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#46 : October 27, 2013, 06:44:05 PM

I saw Mizzou run at him a lot, but you can teach a player to play the run. You can't teach teach players to teleport five yards from where they line up. Many young, explosive pass rushers aren't disciplined against the run. That's what you have coaches for.
Glennon pans out, would you draft Clowney at #3 ?

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#47 : October 28, 2013, 06:06:52 AM

I saw Mizzou run at him a lot, but you can teach a player to play the run. You can't teach teach players to teleport five yards from where they line up. Many young, explosive pass rushers aren't disciplined against the run. That's what you have coaches for.
Glennon pans out, would you draft Clowney at #3 ?
I wouldn't take him in the first round.....JMO

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#48 : October 28, 2013, 07:03:27 AM

big mistake to think people will change. what you see on tape is what you get. Draft for production over potential.

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#49 : October 28, 2013, 08:08:00 AM

IF Glennon pans out...draft Matthews

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#50 : October 28, 2013, 08:12:26 AM

We won't know if Glennon pans out with Sully and Schiano running the show. If the coaches don't get fired till the season is over they will draft a QB. They'll have no choice.

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#51 : October 28, 2013, 08:32:39 AM

Clowney is just another example of the media over hyping a player and now they are in excuse making mode.   He is at best just a 3rd down specialist.   His cheerleaders are still stonewalling that he is a great player just because of his physical numbers.   The funny thing is I am sure his combine performance will be off the chart and some team will continue to overlook his work ethic and character and blow a wad of cash on a player that has "bust" written all over him.   Perhaps the light bulb will go on and his production will match his hype at the next level.   I still remain unconvinced.

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#52 : October 28, 2013, 08:42:26 AM

Schiano and Dom have already decided the Bucs are taking Clowney, even if they have to trade their second and third round picks, plus their first from next year, to get him.

we dont have a first rounder next year (revis)

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#53 : October 28, 2013, 08:49:13 AM

huh? I thought we gave last years first ?

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#54 : October 28, 2013, 09:06:36 AM

Schiano and Dom have already decided the Bucs are taking Clowney, even if they have to trade their second and third round picks, plus their first from next year, to get him.

we dont have a first rounder next year (revis)
The trade was for the 2013 first round and a 2014 4th round with that being a 3rd rounder depending on the amount Revis played.

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#55 : October 28, 2013, 09:12:10 AM

Yeah, we've got a first rounder so no worries there. I haven't watched Clowney much, but I keep hearing about the lack of effort.


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#56 : October 28, 2013, 09:17:38 AM

When evaluating a QB for making a transition from college to the NFL, you really do have to take a close look at who he's played against.

I don't like any of these QB's coming out really. There is definitely no Andrew Luck or Russell Wilson.

I don't like any of the QB's either, but Wilson is a bad example as he was not considered to be 1st round or Luck/RG3 talent. 
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