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#15 : November 04, 2013, 07:35:55 PM

The talent on almost all teams is relatively close. The biggest difference is scheme. The Bucs have enough talent to win games on Sundays, look no further then the Chiefs for a recent example of the effect of coaching.

And with the first pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Teddy Bridgewater, Quarterback, Louisville.

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#16 : November 04, 2013, 07:55:03 PM

Lets face it.. This team is NOT as talented on the field as it is on paper.

Agreed. How do you figure that doesn't boil down to poor coaching, though? Players over or underachieving is usually one major way you tell if a team is well coached or not. The Chiefs are undefeated this year after going 2-14 last year despite not doing much to improve their roster this past offseason. You may think we blame coaches too much, but the Kansas City Chiefs suggest that perhaps you are blaming them too little.


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#17 : November 04, 2013, 08:11:16 PM

Ya I think the talent is really overblown at this point.

Too many Rutgers players on this team right now. Its really silly...makes our organization look foolish..


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#18 : November 05, 2013, 01:57:24 AM

Too much of our "talent" isn't playing right now -- Martin, MWill, Nicks, Goldson stand out.  Our depth is having it's backups play.  Barron is a waste right now, his talent is being squandered by inept coaching IMO.  More of our talent is overrated -- our top guys are just a bit above average, not elite.  We also squander too much talent with bad schemes and playcalling and coaching.

And tackling, drops, blown assignments -- all these are impacted by coaching.  They aren't solely on players.  Nor are they solely on coaching.

We have enough talent to be an above .500 team.  If it's all on the field.  And the coaching improves.  And the team has something to fight for.

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#19 : November 05, 2013, 03:21:27 AM

If we can get rid of this GM before the next draft we might be able to turn this thing around.

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#20 : November 05, 2013, 03:30:15 AM

I think the talent is great. Schiano is just that bad at managing games.

How many games could we say schiano directly lost? And how many losses can we put on the players?

By my count, the players only lost two. Schiano, the rest.

Naismith was right about Revis. Everyone else is a dummy.

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#21 : November 05, 2013, 03:42:08 AM

A team is no better than it's OC and DC. With the Bucs, the OC never was before and the DC was a miserable failure the only time he was before. Dungy never had a decent OC when he coached the Bucs except for Les Steckel.



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#22 : November 05, 2013, 06:57:42 PM

Im sorry but the cheifs added a BIG piece to their puzzle in Alex Smith. I dont care about his stats cause as bucs fans we know stats are for losers :)

If Alex smith was not there that team would not be 8-0.


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#23 : November 05, 2013, 06:59:05 PM

It isn't all coaching. But coaching is doing a poor job and players can only do so much.

Clayborn is a perfect example. Dude is a all motor guy that bull rushes and knock blocks back into the QB. Now hes lining up all over the place and being used where hes curling around a ton of stunts. This isn't what hes good at. It get him out of position rarely gets any pressure because hes not a finesse rusher that can get around a stunt quick and slip by blockers. Its blatantly obvious that this Clayborn is being used as the exact opposite of what he should be. The results are there on tape. Hows Clayborn supposed to succeed in those situations? Many guys that the Bucs have kept have done serviceable elsewhere. Not every player is an all around type of guy that can be counted on to do everything. This is where coaching is failing and their are countless examples.

Just because the players have had bad plays, doesn't mean they weren't put in bad positions. Great coaches use players to their strengths. This staff hasn't done much of that. Teams with lesser talent on paper and on the field are winning games. Cant just be penalties and bad plays because every team experiences those. Add in the margin of talent for most teams is smaller than most make out, coaching plays a significant role.

A team just a few players away is pretty talented. Don't know of any teams that have won a SB with top to bottom solid talent. All rosters are always filled with a few below average starters.



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#24 : November 05, 2013, 07:02:47 PM

But when clayborn does play to bull rush and not stunting all over he doesnt get to the QB. Doesnt get pressure like say McCoy.
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