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: January 16, 2014, 10:28:38 PM

I was just hoping that maybe my fellow Bucs fans will support me and my friend reviewreviewer1 with our master review of The Wolfman. We spent weeks working on it, and this will probably get ZERO views, but I really want people to see this. Basically, we worked on the script together, I did about 52% of the script and he did around 48%, and he is the one who recorded himself as he has a less restrained schedule. Again, please watch as I really spent a long time on this and really would appreciate support and response. Thank you!

NOTE: The guy in the video is a character. The crazy things he says are simply to add to the comedy, he is actually nothing like that in real life and a really nice guy.















: February 18, 2014, 03:07:44 PM MSU_Fan

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#1 : January 20, 2014, 10:54:42 PM

That was painful.  I'm sorry, but that's really all I can say about it.  You should probably rethink your approach.

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#2 : January 21, 2014, 08:21:03 AM

That was painful.  I'm sorry, but that's really all I can say about it.  You should probably rethink your approach.

What about it did you hate?

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#3 : January 24, 2014, 10:26:37 AM

MSU Fan,

Looks like you put a lot of time and effort into this. I am a fan of horror movies in general, but I wasn't the biggest fan of the Wolfman remake. I think Anthony and Benicio are great actors, but the movie just dragged to me a little bit. I don't see too many remakes turning out though, perhaps I was fond of Hills Have Eyes and Zombie's interpretations of Halloween. I remember seeing Walker in Fight Club as an actor, but I'm fairly certain that was exclusively Chuck Palahniuk's work, with Fincher's interpretation. I like how the film looks, the scenery, the special effects, but I'm just not hooked into the story line. To be fair, I wasn't the biggest fan of the original either though. I liked American Werewolf in London and the Howling series, as far as Werewolf flicks go. I liked Silver Bullet as a kid as well, but I probably wouldn't be able to sit through it today.

As far as the reviews go, I think you could increase your audience by shortening the length drastically, it was a 4 part at about an hour. I feel like some of the strongest audience channels started off with shorter teasers and eventually may have led into more detailed analysis of films and whatnot. Like fishing, you have hook before you can reel. I feel like the review was scripted a bit at times, I think with a shorter review you won't have to worry so much about scripts and you can let your ideas flow. I have found in the past when doing video reviews and presentations, that when you run a script sometimes you'll have pace issues, where you'll either speak too quickly or too slowly. You begin to focus on the words and you slip with your inflection and emotion, which can go a long way into keeping your audience interested.

I feel it would be cool to have trademark segments, where when you review future films it is consistent with previous films. For example, when Talking with the Dead responds to Twitter questions and what not. Again, you would have to build your audience and get the feedback first, but it's just a thought. Maybe at the end of each review, you could throw recommendations out there ie; If you liked Wolfman, you might like Dune. (Sorry, I felt Wolfman dragged).

- 3SK
: January 24, 2014, 10:28:45 AM 3rd String Kicker


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#4 : January 24, 2014, 11:13:44 AM

Let me sum up 3SK's post: It sucked.

But, keep at it, dude. Criticism should only motivate you to do better.


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#5 : January 24, 2014, 11:17:44 AM

MSU Fan,

Looks like you put a lot of time and effort into this. I am a fan of horror movies in general, but I wasn't the biggest fan of the Wolfman remake. I think Anthony and Benicio are great actors, but the movie just dragged to me a little bit. I don't see too many remakes turning out though, perhaps I was fond of Hills Have Eyes and Zombie's interpretations of Halloween. I remember seeing Walker in Fight Club as an actor, but I'm fairly certain that was exclusively Chuck Palahniuk's work, with Fincher's interpretation. I like how the film looks, the scenery, the special effects, but I'm just not hooked into the story line. To be fair, I wasn't the biggest fan of the original either though. I liked American Werewolf in London and the Howling series, as far as Werewolf flicks go. I liked Silver Bullet as a kid as well, but I probably wouldn't be able to sit through it today.

As far as the reviews go, I think you could increase your audience by shortening the length drastically, it was a 4 part at about an hour. I feel like some of the strongest audience channels started off with shorter teasers and eventually may have led into more detailed analysis of films and whatnot. Like fishing, you have hook before you can reel. I feel like the review was scripted a bit at times, I think with a shorter review you won't have to worry so much about scripts and you can let your ideas flow. I have found in the past when doing video reviews and presentations, that when you run a script sometimes you'll have pace issues, where you'll either speak too quickly or too slowly. You begin to focus on the words and you slip with your inflection and emotion, which can go a long way into keeping your audience interested.

I feel it would be cool to have trademark segments, where when you review future films it is consistent with previous films. For example, when Talking with the Dead responds to Twitter questions and what not. Again, you would have to build your audience and get the feedback first, but it's just a thought. Maybe at the end of each review, you could throw recommendations out there ie; If you liked Wolfman, you might like Dune. (Sorry, I felt Wolfman dragged).

- 3SK

Thanks for the comment!

Ironically, the effects were my least favorite part of the movie (The CG anyway) The CG is impressive and all, but at the same time, it does look...Really...Really...Faaaake. The best movies take you to another world, and while The Wolfman did that for me, the CG kind've kicked me back out a bit. I loved American Werewolf in London and Fight Club, but I didn't really like The Howling. The characters were really unlikable IMHO and it felt extremely slow and dragging. If you liked it and didn't like The Wolfman though, that's fine, this review was simply us explaining why WE thought it was a masterpiece.

As for the review being scripted, you would be right. I worked on 52% of the script and reviewreviewer1  worked on about 48% of the script and starred/shot the video. I'll give him the advice about as he is the one talking. He's actually Dutch so his English isn't GREAT so that's kind've why he spoke so fast. As for the length, was kind've going for a Red Letter Media type analysis only, you know, good? ;) The answering questions segment sounds like a great idea, I'll talk to him about that too.

Again, thank you for the support,

MSU_Fan.

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#6 : January 26, 2014, 06:58:14 PM

Let me sum up 3SK's post: It sucked.

But, keep at it, dude. Criticism should only motivate you to do better.

Yeah, will probably just review it myself someday without any help, put some music and footage in, answer some questions, make it more fun. reviewreviewer1 has a strict formula for his reviews which often involves a slideshow of scenes from the movie and his (Or in this case OUR) exposition on why it's great.

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#7 : January 27, 2014, 07:48:52 AM

msu, understand that if you want a better source for criticism on your flick, a bucs board is not the place. I do commend you on your good attitude and your ambition, though. that will get you very far in this world.


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#8 : January 27, 2014, 09:19:03 AM

msu, understand that if you want a better source for criticism on your flick, a bucs board is not the place. I do commend you on your good attitude and your ambition, though. that will get you very far in this world.

Yeah, I get it. I just wanted to provide a good defense for this movie that I love so much, and maybe open up some peoples minds to the fact this is a great film. Maybe change some opinions.

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#9 : January 27, 2014, 09:52:51 AM

I pretty much think anything coming out of Hollywood these days (movie-wise) is complete garbage more times than not. Seriously, is it me or have they remade every film known to man? Kinda sad, actually.


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#10 : January 27, 2014, 10:35:47 AM

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I pretty much think anything coming out of Hollywood these days (movie-wise) is complete garbage more times than not. Seriously, is it me or have they remade every film known to man? Kinda sad, actually.
I'm really hoping for a Dune remake. I started watching the original in the early 90s, I just finished it in 2013.


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#11 : January 27, 2014, 11:39:58 AM

I pretty much think anything coming out of Hollywood these days (movie-wise) is complete garbage more times than not. Seriously, is it me or have they remade every film known to man? Kinda sad, actually.

While I will agree that most Hollywood movies are low grade garbage, I do feel that once in a while a big budget Hollywood movie will be massively under-appreciated and not recognized with the praise it deserves (This especially being the case for remakes, which let's be honest, we'll usually get 10 Friday the 13th '09s and The Wicker Man 06's for every The Wolfman '10 and Night of the Living Dead '90), The Wolfman being only one example. I feel the same way about the Star Wars prequels (Episode II and III anyway), as those two films, along with the aforementioned wolfman, really are one of the few Hollywood masterpieces out there. And that's why we reviewed this movie; because the fact that it is what it is, a big budget Hollywood movie about a rampaging werewolf, is going to be a turn-off for a lot of people, especially considering the unfavorable reviews. And yes, we will probably try and do the same for Star Wars Episode II and III.

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I pretty much think anything coming out of Hollywood these days (movie-wise) is complete garbage more times than not. Seriously, is it me or have they remade every film known to man? Kinda sad, actually.
I'm really hoping for a Dune remake. I started watching the original in the early 90s, I just finished it in 2013.

You know what I'd like to see? A decent Wicker Man remake. Saw the original 1973 one recently and it's now one of my all-time favorite movies. I love Nick Cage, but the new one was an insult to Woodward's masterpiece.
: January 27, 2014, 11:42:34 AM MSU_Fan

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#12 : January 27, 2014, 11:56:15 AM

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I pretty much think anything coming out of Hollywood these days (movie-wise) is complete garbage more times than not. Seriously, is it me or have they remade every film known to man? Kinda sad, actually.
I'm really hoping for a Dune remake. I started watching the original in the early 90s, I just finished it in 2013.

Didn't know you were a big Sting fan. I saw Dune a long time ago and only remember it because Sting was in it.


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#13 : January 27, 2014, 11:57:37 AM


While I will agree that most Hollywood movies are low grade garbage, I do feel that once in a while a big budget Hollywood movie will be massively under-appreciated and not recognized with the praise it deserves


American History X comes to mind when reading your post. Took forever for that one to get praise.



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#14 : January 27, 2014, 08:39:44 PM


While I will agree that most Hollywood movies are low grade garbage, I do feel that once in a while a big budget Hollywood movie will be massively under-appreciated and not recognized with the praise it deserves


American History X comes to mind when reading your post. Took forever for that one to get praise.

American history X was good, though admittedly it doesn't hold a candle to fight club. The Star Wars OT was critically panned on release too, critics said that Lucas "ruined movies" and "emphasized effects and not story." Now it's being studied at top tier film schools (Then again, so is the PT, but for some reason people still bash it...Odd.)
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