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#45 : January 27, 2014, 02:01:08 AM

I've seen many of these suggestions freeing up 20+ mil. That would give us between 30 and 40 mil free. My question is, after gutting the team, who are we spending this money on? There are only a handful of FAs out there who would be upgrades to the guys you're talking about cutting, and none of them cost that much.


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#46 : January 27, 2014, 02:03:07 AM

I've seen amny of these suggestions freeing up 20+ mil. That would give us between 30 and 40 mil free. My question is, after gutting the team, who are we spending this money on? There are only a handful of FAs out there who would be upgrades to the guys you're talking about cutting, and none of them cost that much.

Exactly. We'd have it just to have it. Licht has already made it clear that we aren't going to continue the trend to splurge on free agents. Value is the name of the game. We don't need to cut guys to get more cap room.

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#47 : January 27, 2014, 02:06:35 AM

We aren't overpaying anyone. Period.
Is that you Dom?
Shouldn't you be looking for a new job?

Why if we're not overpaying anyone, PERIOD, are you saying Jackson is overpaid in other posts?
I agree on Jackson but you show no consistency.

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#48 : January 27, 2014, 02:10:28 AM

We aren't overpaying anyone. Period.
Is that you Dom?
Shouldn't you be looking for a new job?

Why if we're not overpaying anyone, PERIOD, are you saying Jackson is overpaid in other posts?
I agree on Jackson but you show no consistency.

It's a shame you're not smart enough to realize I was referring to any future transaction we make with Licht as our GM. Intelligence really is optional.

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#49 : January 27, 2014, 02:14:25 AM

We aren't overpaying anyone. Period.
Is that you Dom?
Shouldn't you be looking for a new job?

Why if we're not overpaying anyone, PERIOD, are you saying Jackson is overpaid in other posts?
I agree on Jackson but you show no consistency.

It's a shame you're not smart enough to realize I was referring to any future transaction we make with Licht as our GM. Intelligence really is optional.
So now you're claiming to be able to see into the future and you're saying someone else isn't smart?
Truth is very few people know how Licht will handle the job, where is the proof he had anything to do with the contracts of players when he was with another team?

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#50 : January 27, 2014, 02:18:07 AM

We aren't overpaying anyone. Period.
Is that you Dom?
Shouldn't you be looking for a new job?

Why if we're not overpaying anyone, PERIOD, are you saying Jackson is overpaid in other posts?
I agree on Jackson but you show no consistency.

It's a shame you're not smart enough to realize I was referring to any future transaction we make with Licht as our GM. Intelligence really is optional.
So now you're claiming to be able to see into the future and you're saying someone else isn't smart?
Truth is very few people know how Licht will handle the job, where is the proof he had anything to do with the contracts of players when he was with another team?

No I'm claiming that you weren't smart enough to understand my post which is why you responded the way you did. And straight from the horse's mouth......

"Our philosophy will be to build through the draft. That's where we'll get our stars. We will supplement our roster through free agency. We're going to look for value, we're going to spend wisely. The better teams in the NFL that compete year after year are the teams that draft the best."

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#51 : January 27, 2014, 02:22:47 AM

We aren't overpaying anyone. Period.
Is that you Dom?
Shouldn't you be looking for a new job?

Why if we're not overpaying anyone, PERIOD, are you saying Jackson is overpaid in other posts?
I agree on Jackson but you show no consistency.

It's a shame you're not smart enough to realize I was referring to any future transaction we make with Licht as our GM. Intelligence really is optional.
So now you're claiming to be able to see into the future and you're saying someone else isn't smart?
Truth is very few people know how Licht will handle the job, where is the proof he had anything to do with the contracts of players when he was with another team?

No I'm claiming that you weren't smart enough to understand my post which is why you responded the way you did. And straight from the horse's mouth......

"Our philosophy will be to build through the draft. That's where we'll get our stars. We will supplement our roster through free agency. We're going to look for value, we're going to spend wisely. The better teams in the NFL that compete year after year are the teams that draft the best."
Funny, I never heard Dom come out and say his new plan was to overpay name players.
All I heard listening to Licht all I heard was GM speak, the proof is in what he actually does when he has to get that pass rushing end signed.
Words mean nothing until you back them up with actions.
Remember Raheem promising TDs when he was hired? Exactly.

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#52 : January 27, 2014, 02:28:16 AM

We aren't overpaying anyone. Period.
Is that you Dom?
Shouldn't you be looking for a new job?

Why if we're not overpaying anyone, PERIOD, are you saying Jackson is overpaid in other posts?
I agree on Jackson but you show no consistency.

It's a shame you're not smart enough to realize I was referring to any future transaction we make with Licht as our GM. Intelligence really is optional.
So now you're claiming to be able to see into the future and you're saying someone else isn't smart?
Truth is very few people know how Licht will handle the job, where is the proof he had anything to do with the contracts of players when he was with another team?

No I'm claiming that you weren't smart enough to understand my post which is why you responded the way you did. And straight from the horse's mouth......

"Our philosophy will be to build through the draft. That's where we'll get our stars. We will supplement our roster through free agency. We're going to look for value, we're going to spend wisely. The better teams in the NFL that compete year after year are the teams that draft the best."
Funny, I never heard Dom come out and say his new plan was to overpay name players.
All I heard listening to Licht all I heard was GM speak, the proof is in what he actually does when he has to get that pass rushing end signed.
Words mean nothing until you back them up with actions.
Remember Raheem promising TDs when he was hired? Exactly.

It's hiliarious how you're trying to weasel your way out of your clear moment stupidity. Grouping together 2 separate conversations of mine that have nothing to do with each other and speak on 2 totally different situations. Now you're trying to change the subject. Nice. I'll play along with the mentally less fortunate.

Okay. Dom didn't say it. He just did it. So that means Licht is just blowing hot air now and he really intends to spend money on big money on a pass rushing end. Happy now?

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#53 : January 27, 2014, 07:40:40 AM

I know we can't cut Goldson yet , but I'd try very hard to trade him ....even if it's for a 7th rounder in 2019 I would do it. Just clear the salary. We already have a Strong safety with his same skill set who is younger , better , and cheaper. ( Barron ) . We need a Free safety.  Licht talks about not getting the "best" 11 players on the field , but the best "FITS" on the field , and this is a prime example.


I'd blow up that O-line also. It's time to rebuild it and go younger.

What is your point? I was wrong? Ok. You win. I was wrong.

           

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#54 : January 27, 2014, 12:35:10 PM

Bootz2004, our Oline is a joke since 10 years... best production was with Nicks playing and we only got average production from the group.
without Nicks healthy we have one of the worst Oline in the league, only Dotson had a good year...
Joseph is a BUST since 5 years, he's 31 not 25 and paid like a Pro Bowler... Top 5 money for bottom 5 production isn't good value!
Penn had the worst season of his career and he's declining since 3 years, he's below average since 2007, just had one good (not great) year in 2010.
Penn will make $8M next year when you can sign a Veldheer or Monroe for nearly the same amount per year or for half of that a free agent like Saffold and Collins on a one-year prove it deal... or you can draft a LT at #7!
Zuttah is an average OC at best and he's making Top 10 money... at best he's worth $3M, not $4.5M!
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