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#15 : March 02, 2014, 05:47:30 PM

I think Doug Martin could really breakout. Lightening his workload will increase his efficiency and he will become a real playmaker for us.

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#16 : March 02, 2014, 05:52:49 PM

I think Doug Martin could really breakout. Lightening his workload will increase his efficiency and he will become a real playmaker for us.

He wasn't that already?



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#17 : March 02, 2014, 05:57:21 PM

Tim wright gonna break out be a top ten te. Gonna eat pinneapple in Hawaii next season.



That would be possible, if you could buy blocking skills at Walmart or where ever.  Unfortunately, I think a good blocking TE is something you are, not something you can be taught. I like him though, and he has a place on the team going forward. But a good blocking TE is going to have to come from the draft or free agency, if they are so inclined.

Funny, I feel 100% the opposite of that.  Blocking is as much about "want to" as anything else.  The guy wasn't a TE for a long time and never "got it", he was a WR and is making a transition and is just learning how to block.



On the topic of breakouts:

Gholston IMO is going to break out.  Possibly Banks as a Ronde-esque playmaker.  I think AC will prove to be a very good player as well, but I think he's already good so I'm not sure about calling him a "break out' guy.  Barron is just going to be solid.  I wouldn't call him a break out guy.  Wright will definitely be a break-out player.

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#18 : March 02, 2014, 05:57:55 PM

Really hoping Lovie and Hardy can light a fire under Mason Foster. Would be nice to see him step his game up.


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#19 : March 02, 2014, 05:58:06 PM

I think Doug Martin could really breakout. Lightening his workload will increase his efficiency and he will become a real playmaker for us.

He wasn't that already?

He was a guy who got fed a ton of touches.

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#20 : March 02, 2014, 06:04:18 PM

I'd also add Glennon as a candidate if he gets a shot at it.  He was put in a horrible position last year and did better than anyone has any logical reason to have expected.  Put in a better spot with a scheme that doesn't seem deliberately designed to ignore his strengths and force him to his weaknesses and I think he'll surprise a lot of people.

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#21 : March 02, 2014, 06:05:58 PM



Funny, I feel 100% the opposite of that.  Blocking is as much about "want to" as anything else.  The guy wasn't a TE for a long time and never "got it", he was a WR and is making a transition and is just learning how to block.





I think that is part of the problem, he is a coverted WR.  A good blocking TE wants to get in there and mix it up every play. He is more of a finesse guy with great hands. And there is nothing wrong with that. Many great TE's have made a living doing that. But, if Tedford wants a beast at TE with blocking skills, I think he needs to look elsewhere.

Who knows. A lot can happen. Say Mike Wil self destructs. They could move Wright back to WR, and restock the TE position.



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#22 : March 02, 2014, 07:35:53 PM

Jonathan Banks IMO. He showed flashes late last season. year two will be his breakout season.

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#23 : March 02, 2014, 07:42:27 PM

I think Doug Martin could really breakout. Lightening his workload will increase his efficiency and he will become a real playmaker for us.

He wasn't that already?

Not exactly. His career thus far consists of a good 2012 and a subpar 2013. He was anything but a playmaker last season. And 2012 he had 4-5 great games and the rest meh.

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#24 : March 02, 2014, 08:16:22 PM

Barron
Wright
Gholston

My picks.

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#25 : March 02, 2014, 08:40:44 PM



Funny, I feel 100% the opposite of that.  Blocking is as much about "want to" as anything else.  The guy wasn't a TE for a long time and never "got it", he was a WR and is making a transition and is just learning how to block.





I think that is part of the problem, he is a coverted WR.  A good blocking TE wants to get in there and mix it up every play. He is more of a finesse guy with great hands. And there is nothing wrong with that. Many great TE's have made a living doing that. But, if Tedford wants a beast at TE with blocking skills, I think he needs to look elsewhere.

Who knows. A lot can happen. Say Mike Wil self destructs. They could move Wright back to WR, and restock the TE position.

If you want a beast blocking at TE, then you aren't getting a receiver at TE.  They are two different players.  The top receiving TEs aren't great blockers.  They just aren't glaring liabilities.

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#26 : March 02, 2014, 08:56:02 PM

Tim wright gonna break out be a top ten te. Gonna eat pinneapple in Hawaii next season.



That would be possible, if you could buy blocking skills at Walmart or where ever.  Unfortunately, I think a good blocking TE is something you are, not something you can be taught. I like him though, and he has a place on the team going forward. But a good blocking TE is going to have to come from the draft or free agency, if they are so inclined.

Funny, I feel 100% the opposite of that.  Blocking is as much about "want to" as anything else.  The guy wasn't a TE for a long time and never "got it", he was a WR and is making a transition and is just learning how to block.



On the topic of breakouts:

Gholston IMO is going to break out.  Possibly Banks as a Ronde-esque playmaker.  I think AC will prove to be a very good player as well, but I think he's already good so I'm not sure about calling him a "break out' guy.  Barron is just going to be solid.  I wouldn't call him a break out guy.  Wright will definitely be a break-out player.
Agree on having high hopes for both Wright and Gholston... hoping for Spence as well... just the glutton in me....

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Funny, I feel 100% the opposite of that.  Blocking is as much about "want to" as anything else.  The guy wasn't a TE for a long time and never "got it", he was a WR and is making a transition and is just learning how to block.





I think that is part of the problem, he is a coverted WR.  A good blocking TE wants to get in there and mix it up every play. He is more of a finesse guy with great hands. And there is nothing wrong with that. Many great TE's have made a living doing that. But, if Tedford wants a beast at TE with blocking skills, I think he needs to look elsewhere.

Who knows. A lot can happen. Say Mike Wil self destructs. They could move Wright back to WR, and restock the TE position.

If you want a beast blocking at TE, then you aren't getting a receiver at TE.  They are two different players.  The top receiving TEs aren't great blockers.  They just aren't glaring liabilities.





Agree. And it doesn't have to be either / or, is my point.    Wright is a good receiving TE, now get a good blocking TE somewhere this offseason.  They will carry 2 or 3 TE's on the final 53.



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#28 : March 03, 2014, 06:48:28 AM

Wright is a good receiving TE, now get a good blocking TE somewhere this offseason.  They will carry 2 or 3 TE's on the final 53.
can maneieri be that 2nd TE?

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#29 : March 03, 2014, 08:15:09 AM

My vote goes to Adrian Clayborn.  A full season removed from blowing up his knee and in a scheme that will let him do his thing.
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