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« : March 03, 2014, 10:26:42 AM »

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/03/03/nfl-n-word-ban-monday-morning-quarterback/5/


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6. I think if I’m guessing where Jairus Byrd lands—assuming he’s not tagged by the Bills—I’m guessing Tampa Bay. His dad, Gil Byrd, is an assistant coach in the secondary for the Bucs. Not many instances of father coaching son in NFL history.




I'd absolutely love it but I don't know how we could dump Goldson to make it happen


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« #1 : March 03, 2014, 10:30:37 AM »

Don't see it.

Like you said brads, Goldson has us by the balls.

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« #2 : March 03, 2014, 10:34:02 AM »

What is the cap hit to dump Goldson?  We've got a lot of room maybe you eat the hit on Goldson this year to add a much, much, much more useful player.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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« #3 : March 03, 2014, 10:34:11 AM »

I don't see it happening.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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« #4 : March 03, 2014, 10:35:31 AM »

I doubt we would trade Goldson right?

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« #5 : March 03, 2014, 10:35:52 AM »

Or is "could" the better question?

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« #6 : March 03, 2014, 10:36:36 AM »

I'd absolutely love it but I don't know how we could dump Goldson to make it happen

His contract becomes more tradeable after we give him his roster bonus.

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« #7 : March 03, 2014, 10:36:59 AM »

What is the cap hit to dump Goldson?  We've got a lot of room maybe you eat the hit on Goldson this year to add a much, much, much more useful player.

Whatever the number, it would be worth it to bring in a player who represents a significant upgrade to the FS position.  Problem is, Lovie has talked about how Goldson will be a valuable piece to the defense...which is discouraging to see that Goldson already has the wool pulled over the staffs eyes.
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« #8 : March 03, 2014, 10:38:25 AM »

I doubt we would trade Goldson right?


...would you want his contract?  Unless we've taken the hit for a lot of bonuses and the remaining salary is low no one wants to pay him what he's earning.

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« #9 : March 03, 2014, 10:39:04 AM »

What is the cap hit to dump Goldson?  We've got a lot of room maybe you eat the hit on Goldson this year to add a much, much, much more useful player.

Depends what you define as "dump". If he's traded he cost us nothing against the cap. If he's cut he counts $9M in 2014 and $3M in 2015.

If we trade him after his roster bonus, he counts $3M against our cap and then we're done with it and the other team takes on the rest of the guarantees.

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« #10 : March 03, 2014, 10:42:00 AM »

Sign him and run a base 4-2-5!

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« #11 : March 03, 2014, 10:44:41 AM »

What is the cap hit to dump Goldson?  We've got a lot of room maybe you eat the hit on Goldson this year to add a much, much, much more useful player.

Whatever the number, it would be worth it to bring in a player who represents a significant upgrade to the FS position.  Problem is, Lovie has talked about how Goldson will be a valuable piece to the defense...which is discouraging to see that Goldson already has the wool pulled over the staffs eyes.
And Schiano told us all how much he liked Josh Freeman. I don't pay attention to any of this stuff.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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« #12 : March 03, 2014, 10:51:29 AM »

What is the cap hit to dump Goldson?  We've got a lot of room maybe you eat the hit on Goldson this year to add a much, much, much more useful player.

Depends what you define as "dump". If he's traded he cost us nothing against the cap. If he's cut he counts $9M in 2014 and $3M in 2015.

If we trade him after his roster bonus, he counts $3M against our cap and then we're done with it and the other team takes on the rest of the guarantees.

Trades cost us the bonus money being accelerated. Cut and traded has the same effect IIRC.

Ugh, that sack of crap for $9m sucks but I might take that hit this year to get Byrd who will help us a lot more than the human foul.

All posts are opinions in case you are too stupid to figure that out on your own without me saying it over and over.

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« #13 : March 03, 2014, 10:53:15 AM »

What is the cap hit to dump Goldson?  We've got a lot of room maybe you eat the hit on Goldson this year to add a much, much, much more useful player.

Depends what you define as "dump". If he's traded he cost us nothing against the cap. If he's cut he counts $9M in 2014 and $3M in 2015.

If we trade him after his roster bonus, he counts $3M against our cap and then we're done with it and the other team takes on the rest of the guarantees.

Pretty sure if he is cut we have to take that cap hit all at once as a $12M one. 

Every time I see last post JC5100, I have to click on it.... Pure comedy.

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« #14 : March 03, 2014, 10:59:25 AM »

What is the cap hit to dump Goldson?  We've got a lot of room maybe you eat the hit on Goldson this year to add a much, much, much more useful player.

Depends what you define as "dump". If he's traded he cost us nothing against the cap. If he's cut he counts $9M in 2014 and $3M in 2015.

If we trade him after his roster bonus, he counts $3M against our cap and then we're done with it and the other team takes on the rest of the guarantees.

Pretty sure if he is cut we have to take that cap hit all at once as a $12M one.

Maybe, I don't know. Never seen a contract structured like this where the player was ever in question of being let go.
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