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: March 25, 2007, 12:17:00 AM

It's easy to say in any draft that trading down is the way to go.  And honestly, who could turn down another second round pick to drop a couple spots?  The point is that it's very easy to say, but seldom a reality.

But if, on the other hand, the bucs trade UP in this draft, then yes, I'm joining the pitchfork and fire crew.

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#1 : March 24, 2007, 11:47:51 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/03/22/mock.draft4.part1/index.html

I think CJ would be a great fit here in Tampa...But, really...desperate?


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#2 : March 24, 2007, 11:49:27 PM

If we trade up for a freakin' WR I'm stocking up on torches and pitchforks.


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#3 : March 24, 2007, 11:52:50 PM

It's ALL speculation, poor speculation at that.

I think we'd take Thomas over Johnson but won't trade up for either. When the media latches onto a theory, no matter how unproven, look out.


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#4 : March 24, 2007, 11:57:42 PM

Don Banks is a former St. Pete Times guy, so he had to write 'desperate'.

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#5 : March 24, 2007, 11:59:26 PM

As long as we don't move #35 im good with trading up for CJ




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#6 : March 25, 2007, 04:54:16 AM

Moving up from #4 to #2 should not require pick #35. Even the lower 2nd rounder would be a stretch. But if other teams are also offering deals, we may be stuck in a bidding war.

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#7 : March 25, 2007, 05:21:56 AM

Moving up from #4 to #2 should not require pick #35. Even the lower 2nd rounder would be a stretch. But if other teams are also offering deals, we may be stuck in a bidding war.

Going by the trade value chart we would have to trade #4, #35 and #68 to move up to #2.


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#8 : March 25, 2007, 08:52:48 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/03/22/mock.draft4.part1/index.html

I think CJ would be a great fit here in Tampa...But, really...desperate?



If your a 10 win team and have very few needs (Chargers, Colts, Ravens)  then maybe you package your picks and move up to get CJ. If your a 4-12 team with many needs you DO NOT mortgage your future for one guy esp. a WR,  In fact if CJ is there you trade that pick for 3 first day picks. The Bucs future is with this draft.  In a deep draft with 4 1st day picks you don't F#$K that up. Bucs can not afford to fall in love with a player.  IMHO

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#9 : March 25, 2007, 09:10:02 AM

Don Banks doesn't know what in hell any team is thinking about, it's pure speculation without any facts. CJ looks to be a great player but I am confident the Bucs won't mortgage the future for him.

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#10 : March 25, 2007, 10:13:53 AM

Did something change? I just read this mock for the first time and I didn't see the word "desperate":

The Bucs may not wind up getting Johnson in the No. 4 spot, but if they have to move to No. 2 to land him, they're willing to pull that trigger. By now, you just know Jon Gruden is invested in the idea of putting Johnson in pewter.

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#11 : March 25, 2007, 10:35:23 AM

Did something change? I just read this mock for the first time and I didn't see the word "desperate":

The Bucs may not wind up getting Johnson in the No. 4 spot, but if they have to move to No. 2 to land him, they're willing to pull that trigger. By now, you just know Jon Gruden is invested in the idea of putting Johnson in pewter.


It's under Detroit's selection.

I'm fairly well convinced the Lions are going to trade out of this spot, maybe with the No. 3 Browns (to take Brady Quinn), No. 4 Bucs (who are desperate for Johnson), or No. 7 Vikings (who could use Johnson or Quinn). This should be Johnson's draft slot, and the Lions will get the best trade value from the team that covets him most. If Detroit sticks with the pick, I'm leaning back toward Thomas.

And yes, unless we're willing to give up next year's first, it's pretty much inconceivable that we could trade up to number 2 without giving up our 2a pick (and a good bit more besides).

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#12 : March 25, 2007, 11:02:13 AM

Levi Brown at #5????? I Quit reading there.....


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#13 : March 25, 2007, 01:41:42 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/03/22/mock.draft4.part1/index.html

I think CJ would be a great fit here in Tampa...But, really...desperate?



If your a 10 win team and have very few needs (Chargers, Colts, Ravens)  then maybe you package your picks and move up to get CJ. If your a 4-12 team with many needs you DO NOT mortgage your future for one guy esp. a WR,  In fact if CJ is there you trade that pick for 3 first day picks. The Bucs future is with this draft.  In a deep draft with 4 1st day picks you don't F#$K that up. Bucs can not afford to fall in love with a player.  IMHO

agreed. nice post.  Calvin is a great player and he'd be a premium value pick if he fell to us at #4 when he's arguably the top overall prospect in the draft.  WR isn't a pressing need for us like the DL, S or OL but I'll admit that if he was still there at #4 then it would be very tough to pass on him given his skills.  However, to trade up and give away multiple day 1 picks to slide up two spots is foolish, especially when its to take a player at a position where you dont have a pressing need.   If its meant to be and he falls to us then consider it a draft day gift from the football gods.  But lets not get crazy and screw ourselves for the long term but throwing away several high picks to trade up and get one player, now matter how good he is.  These 4 day one picks will hopefully help form a new core of the team to replace the current core of team leaders when they end their careers over the next couple years.  We're going to get a very good player at #4 no matter what, whether its CJ, JT or Gaines Adams.  Let the chips fall how they may.   

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#14 : March 25, 2007, 07:32:41 PM

Under this scenerio and we don't land Calvin Johnson then I would bet the farm that the Bucs would move up to get Ginn or Meachem at the 30th or 31st selectioin.
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