If Gruden persuades Plummer to come...

[cyberdude557]

Plummer may not even beat Simms. The Denver media didn't call him Jake "the Mistake" for nothing.

[alldaway]

I am not a Plummer fan but I can say confidentaly that he could beat out Simms.

Plummer may not even beat Simms. The Denver media didn't call him Jake "the Mistake" for nothing.

You act as if Simms is anything but an average QB.

[karen anderson]

What football smarts? His problem is he doesn't have any of those. He's got the arm, the height, and a training that other QBs can only dream of, and yet he's no better than a short rookie with crap training and a small school background. THat's a giant red flag.

Much to the staff's dismay, Simms continued to struggle with mastering the offense last offseason. Gradkowski had it down better than Simms, despite being a rook. I know people don't want to hear that, but it's the truth.

Do you speak for the coaching staff?

[cyberdude557]

Plummer may not even beat Simms. The Denver media didn't call him Jake "the Mistake" for nothing.

You act as if Simms is anything but an average QB.

Simms had one good year here where he was bailed out by Caddy and Alstott several times. I personally havn't seen anything that tells me he is anything more than an average QB.

[DanTurksGhost]

Do you speak for the coaching staff?

"TO" and not "FOR".

Plummer may not even beat Simms. The Denver media didn't call him Jake "the Mistake" for nothing.

You act as if Simms is anything but an average QB.

Simms had one good year here where he was bailed out by Caddy and Alstott several times. I personally havn't seen anything that tells me he is anything more than an average QB.

Yes? We're on the same page, however I'm not sure how you think Plummer wouldn't beat out Simms.

[karen anderson]

Your post sounds more like 'for'. Telling us things 'whether we want to hear it or not because it's true." Sounds subjective to me.

[karen anderson]

Plummer may not even beat Simms. The Denver media didn't call him Jake "the Mistake" for nothing.

You act as if Simms is anything but an average QB.

Simms had one good year here where he was bailed out by Caddy and Alstott several times. I personally havn't seen anything that tells me he is anything more than an average QB.

Yes? We're on the same page, however I'm not sure how you think Plummer wouldn't beat out Simms.

Plummer is not here. And he doesn't seem the type to be 'talked into anything.'

[DanTurksGhost]

Your post sounds more like 'for'. Telling us things 'whether we want to hear it or not because it's true." Sounds subjective to me.

However you choose to take it, that's your call. I can only pass on the information I've been told firsthand (whether you want to hear it or not).

[caradoc]

What football smarts? His problem is he doesn't have any of those. He's got the arm, the height, and a training that other QBs can only dream of, and yet he's no better than a short rookie with crap training and a small school background. THat's a giant red flag.

Much to the staff's dismay, Simms continued to struggle with mastering the offense last offseason. Gradkowski had it down better than Simms, despite being a rook. I know people don't want to hear that, but it's the truth.

Do you speak for the coaching staff?

Simms even said it himself Karen.  He talked about Grads already being ahead of him regarding understanding the offense before last season even started.

You're right Plummer is not here, yet most of us still think he could beat out Simms, and the coaching staff still wants Plummer, what does that say about your boy?

[karen anderson]

I don't have a 'boy.'

Your post sounds more like 'for'. Telling us things 'whether we want to hear it or not because it's true." Sounds subjective to me.

However you choose to take it, that's your call. I can only pass on the information I've been told firsthand (whether you want to hear it or not).

How about whether I believe it or not?

I don't have a 'boy.'

Your post sounds more like 'for'. Telling us things 'whether we want to hear it or not because it's true." Sounds subjective to me.

However you choose to take it, that's your call. I can only pass on the information I've been told firsthand (whether you want to hear it or not).

How about whether I believe it or not?

Why would you doubt DTG? Considering he did say this was the Gruden's stance months ago. Hell people could choose to not believe the things in my book are true, but  DTG would be gaining nothing by faking, unlike Plummer's 'nephew'.

[DanTurksGhost]

How about whether I believe it or not?

What you believe or not has no effect on me whatsoever. Nor does it alter reality. Nor does it change anything I've been told.