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From St. Pete Times.com: http://www.sptimes.com/2007/03/29/Bucs/Gruden_hints_at_move_.shtml

Gruden hints at move up in draft to get WR


John Gruden can't say enough good things about Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson.

PHOENIX - Jon Gruden was on his second cup of coffee at the NFC coaches' breakfast Wednesday morning at the Arizona Biltmore Resort by the time a question hanging in the cool desert air finally snapped him awake.

Is it harder picking players in the top five of the NFL draft?

"I'd rather pick No. 1 and do whatever I want," Gruden said. "Why would it be harder?"

Gruden might have to wait until the Bucs pick fourth overall next month, but it's clear he would prefer not to. It's also becoming more obvious the player Tampa Bay would consider moving up for is Georgia Tech receiver Calvin Johnson.

Like many teams, the Bucs were blown away by Johnson's pro day workout March 15 in Atlanta.

"You put his body on at the combine and you have this big guy looking at you on the big screen with his shirt off and he's chiseled and he's 6-5 and 240 pounds and he runs 4.36 for us," Gruden said. "Then he jumps 11-7 and he's mad as hell at himself. I've been doing this 16 years and I've never seen 11-7, especially from a 6-5, 240-pound guy. Then he jumps 44 1/2 inches and he's mad as hell, he thinks he should've gotten 47. And he's a great kid. He'll look you in the eye and he wants to be good. Everybody you talk to at Georgia Tech says that's a good kid right there, that Calvin Johnson. He's going to be a great player.

"I think the next couple weeks when we get all the information and do all the behind-the-scenes, one-on-one work on these guys, there's a chance. You go and you get a private day with two or three of these guys, and there's a lot to learn when you work out a guy privately. But there's a chance we could move up."

During a one-hour interview, Gruden basically professed his affection for each player projected to go in the top five.

He compared the strength of LSU junior quarterback JaMarcus Russell with the savvy of Notre Dame senior Brady Quinn. He even said Adrian Peterson might be the "best back I've ever seen coming out of college."

And, yes, he made a case for taking the Oklahoma junior, even though the Bucs drafted Cadillac Williams high in 2005.

"Well, you never know. Look at the teams to win," he said. "You're looking at Corey Dillon and Laurence Maroney. You look at Thomas Jones and (Cedric) Benson or Dominic Rhodes and Joseph Addai. This is an important trait. If you're going to run the ball 35 or 40 times a game, there's a lot of love to spread around if you've got two great backs."

While Johnson didn't play in a pro-style offense, he demonstrated an ability to run crisp routes at his pro day workout. The Bucs plan to work out Russell and Quinn, although it seems unlikely they would take a quarterback after signing Jeff Garcia and trading for Jake Plummer. The only thing Gruden is sure of is that they will get a good player.

"The draft is no perfect science," he said. "There's going to be error. But you try to find a guy with as few holes as you can. There's got to be something the guy can't do. ... If the guy don't make it then there's going to be a lot of guys that are going to be wrong. I'd say that about the quarterbacks.

"And I personally think this running back might be the best back I've ever seen coming out of college. This is a punishing guy. You go back and watch him as a freshman. In nine games, he has 1,800 yards. This guy won't go out of bounds, every time he carries the ball he tries to hurt you. Bad. And he's fast and mean as hell. So we're going to get a good player there. It's just a matter of what we want to do.

"The kid, Joe Thomas from Wisconsin, is a hell of an offensive tackle. Are you kidding me? He's got a lot of upside. This is what we need in Tampa. We need to get a good player. Then we need to get another one and another one. Then we need to go to training camp and win some football games."

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#1 : March 29, 2007, 08:56:33 AM

He made the case for everyone in this article, like most coahes do at this time of the year.

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#2 : March 29, 2007, 08:59:06 AM

I hope to hell he's bluffing!  We do not need to give up any picks this year!

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#3 : March 29, 2007, 09:00:00 AM

I must have missed the hint.

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#4 : March 29, 2007, 09:02:06 AM

Golly, he likes everyone. Ask him about Joe Blow the WR from DivIII Southwest South Dakota State University- Badlands Annex and see if he likes him too.

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#5 : March 29, 2007, 09:11:45 AM

Gaines and Carricker have not been mentioned so far I think. 8)

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#6 : March 29, 2007, 09:47:15 AM

Gaines and Carricker have not been mentioned so far I think. 8)
And the Okoye talk has gotten really quiet.

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#7 : March 29, 2007, 10:36:32 AM

Gaines and Carricker have not been mentioned so far I think. 8)
And the Okoye talk has gotten really quiet.

I believe Gruden did mention him in another article. ;)

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#8 : March 29, 2007, 10:50:34 AM

Golly, he likes everyone. Ask him about Joe Blow the WR from DivIII Southwest South Dakota State University- Badlands Annex and see if he likes him too.

This happens every year - he loves every player available in the draft and free agency. It's sort of interesting to hear his takes on different players, but he's not going to say a bad thing about any of them.

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#9 : March 29, 2007, 11:02:37 AM

Golly, he likes everyone. Ask him about Joe Blow the WR from DivIII Southwest South Dakota State University- Badlands Annex and see if he likes him too.

That guy managed to get Gruden a highlight tape at the Senior Bowl. We are going to take somebody in the 5th round.

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#10 : March 29, 2007, 11:06:32 AM

Remember that small college QB who was uninvited to the Senior Bowl but went anyway to talk to the various assembled coaches (last year I think?). Gruden talked about him like he could be Joe Montana.

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#11 : March 29, 2007, 06:03:18 PM

Do whatever,I wanna win,contend next year.


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#12 : March 29, 2007, 06:05:46 PM

headline: Gruden is a master of deception.

headline: GRUDEN HINTS AT EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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#13 : March 29, 2007, 07:30:20 PM

From St. Pete Times.com: http://www.sptimes.com/2007/03/29/Bucs/Gruden_hints_at_move_.shtml

Gruden hints at move up in draft to get WR


John Gruden can't say enough good things about Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson.

PHOENIX - Jon Gruden was on his second cup of coffee at the NFC coaches' breakfast Wednesday morning at the Arizona Biltmore Resort by the time a question hanging in the cool desert air finally snapped him awake.

Is it harder picking players in the top five of the NFL draft?

"I'd rather pick No. 1 and do whatever I want," Gruden said. "Why would it be harder?"

Gruden might have to wait until the Bucs pick fourth overall next month, but it's clear he would prefer not to. It's also becoming more obvious the player Tampa Bay would consider moving up for is Georgia Tech receiver Calvin Johnson.

Like many teams, the Bucs were blown away by Johnson's pro day workout March 15 in Atlanta.

"You put his body on at the combine and you have this big guy looking at you on the big screen with his shirt off and he's chiseled and he's 6-5 and 240 pounds and he runs 4.36 for us," Gruden said. "Then he jumps 11-7 and he's mad as hell at himself. I've been doing this 16 years and I've never seen 11-7, especially from a 6-5, 240-pound guy. Then he jumps 44 1/2 inches and he's mad as hell, he thinks he should've gotten 47. And he's a great kid. He'll look you in the eye and he wants to be good. Everybody you talk to at Georgia Tech says that's a good kid right there, that Calvin Johnson. He's going to be a great player.

"I think the next couple weeks when we get all the information and do all the behind-the-scenes, one-on-one work on these guys, there's a chance. You go and you get a private day with two or three of these guys, and there's a lot to learn when you work out a guy privately. But there's a chance we could move up."

During a one-hour interview, Gruden basically professed his affection for each player projected to go in the top five.

He compared the strength of LSU junior quarterback JaMarcus Russell with the savvy of Notre Dame senior Brady Quinn. He even said Adrian Peterson might be the "best back I've ever seen coming out of college."

And, yes, he made a case for taking the Oklahoma junior, even though the Bucs drafted Cadillac Williams high in 2005.

"Well, you never know. Look at the teams to win," he said. "You're looking at Corey Dillon and Laurence Maroney. You look at Thomas Jones and (Cedric) Benson or Dominic Rhodes and Joseph Addai. This is an important trait. If you're going to run the ball 35 or 40 times a game, there's a lot of love to spread around if you've got two great backs."

While Johnson didn't play in a pro-style offense, he demonstrated an ability to run crisp routes at his pro day workout. The Bucs plan to work out Russell and Quinn, although it seems unlikely they would take a quarterback after signing Jeff Garcia and trading for Jake Plummer. The only thing Gruden is sure of is that they will get a good player.

"The draft is no perfect science," he said. "There's going to be error. But you try to find a guy with as few holes as you can. There's got to be something the guy can't do. ... If the guy don't make it then there's going to be a lot of guys that are going to be wrong. I'd say that about the quarterbacks.

"And I personally think this running back might be the best back I've ever seen coming out of college. This is a punishing guy. You go back and watch him as a freshman. In nine games, he has 1,800 yards. This guy won't go out of bounds, every time he carries the ball he tries to hurt you. Bad. And he's fast and mean as hell. So we're going to get a good player there. It's just a matter of what we want to do.

"The kid, Joe Thomas from Wisconsin, is a hell of an offensive tackle. Are you kidding me? He's got a lot of upside. This is what we need in Tampa. We need to get a good player. Then we need to get another one and another one. Then we need to go to training camp and win some football games."

Sounds like he's trying to sell CJ,AP,and JR to Oak,Det,Cleve, 

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#14 : March 29, 2007, 07:41:07 PM

This whole thing doesn't mean anything. He'd love to have them all. He knows he'll get somebody good at #4.
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