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#60 : October 24, 2006, 04:01:05 PM

Josh Bidwell IS a top punter in the NFL and his record proves it. He's an asset and those of us who've seen him play know it.
They'll always be someone bashing one of our own after a game, win or lose. I don't get that and don't want to.
Josh is a class act, a great punter and probably the best holder in the NFL bar NONE. Let it go.

He's an asset to be sure, and a decent fellow. He's a good punter who is not having a outstanding year. Clearly he's not in the top 5, as proven by his statistics. But to say he is the best punter in the league is just plain lack of awareness of the rest of the guys who play that position around the NFL.

You say he's the best holder in the NFL (bar none). What does he do as a holder that makes him better it than Sam Koch or Scott Player or Hunter Smith, for example?

Sometimes it's obvious that people focus so much on our own team that they have no idea what's going on around the NFL, which certainly limits the perspective. Every player who plays for the Bucs is not the best player at their position. In fact, right now, there is probably NO player that plays for the Bucs who is the top player at their position.

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#61 : October 24, 2006, 04:02:47 PM

Bidwell is forced to kick at his own 39 yard line.  Not exactly fair to him, he gets his numbers skewed.  He gets off some booming kicks, and the net is all the STs fault.

Why is kicking at his own 39 unfair? That gives him 61 yards of field to work with.

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#62 : October 24, 2006, 04:11:37 PM

Bidwell is forced to kick at his own 39 yard line. Not exactly fair to him, he gets his numbers skewed. He gets off some booming kicks, and the net is all the STs fault.

Why is kicking at his own 39 unfair? That gives him 61 yards of field to work with.

I am sorry, I meant  "their" 39...

The Bucs have not kicked FGs hardly at all this year.  Forcing Bidwell to kick at "their" 39 yard line screws up his numbers.

And the NET is on STs.  You can knock them for that one.


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#63 : October 24, 2006, 04:19:07 PM

Bidwell is forced to kick at his own 39 yard line. Not exactly fair to him, he gets his numbers skewed. He gets off some booming kicks, and the net is all the STs fault.

Why is kicking at his own 39 unfair? That gives him 61 yards of field to work with.

I am sorry, I meant "their" 39...

The Bucs have not kicked FGs hardly at all this year. Forcing Bidwell to kick at "their" 39 yard line screws up his numbers.

And the NET is on STs. You can knock them for that one.

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#64 : October 24, 2006, 04:25:41 PM

The Bucs have not kicked FGs hardly at all this year.  Forcing Bidwell to kick at "their" 39 yard line screws up his numbers.
And the NET is on STs.  You can knock them for that one.

What really hurts the net is kicking from "their" 39 and putting them in the end zone instead of angling them out inside the 20 or dropping them at the 10 where your gunners can down the ball. But coverage unit does, indeed, affect net as well. Also affecting net is a punter out-kicking his coverage.

Punting isn't about kicking it as far as you can every time.

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#65 : October 24, 2006, 05:22:15 PM

This is merely Gruden lighting a fire under Bidwells azz. The frist three games of the season he was on fire and lately he ahsn't been. This is a ploy pure and simple-- just like when they brought in all the WR's to light a fire under Clayton and Hilliard.

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