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: May 03, 2007, 03:33:01 AM

I know Branson is a maverick but...

This one surprises me...

http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/us/whatsonboard/inflightentertainment/tv/documentarylisting.jsp

LOOSE CHANGE 2:

Warning: Contains disturbing scenes.

Was 9/11 a government set up? You decide.

Everyone's talking about it so we thought you'd like to see the film that started out as a home movie and became one of the most downloaded documentaries of all time. Was 9/11 a government set up? Were the twin towers brought down in a controlled explosion for an insurance payday? These questions and more are posed in this controversial film, seen by millions, derided by many. Now it's your chance to make up your own mind.

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#1 : May 03, 2007, 03:37:12 AM

when are we going to see the film on how the government made the highway in California collapse

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#2 : May 03, 2007, 03:43:05 AM

I'm editing it now.

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#3 : May 03, 2007, 03:45:52 AM

i was wondering why you hadnt posted it yet

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#4 : May 03, 2007, 04:40:10 AM

forget Loose Change, this is the best 911 conspiracy film: 


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#5 : May 03, 2007, 11:14:40 AM

Thanks Skull. I have been wanting to watch that one to see if they raise any good points.

Over 10 million downloads of Loose Change so far. Pretty amazing.

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#6 : May 03, 2007, 01:24:51 PM

Skull

Thanks for posting that link. I just watched the entire thing. Amazing how my mind is actually racing right now.

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#7 : May 03, 2007, 01:26:56 PM

Just imagine if there was a "Flying Virgin" Airways. They'd get my biz..

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#8 : May 03, 2007, 01:34:04 PM

Hooters Air?

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#9 : May 03, 2007, 01:47:37 PM

Hooters Air?


Now there's two words, sandwiched between the words "Big" and "Head" that work perfectly here in the Golden State.. lol

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#10 : May 05, 2007, 02:27:22 PM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/04/virgin_drops_911_movie

Virgin Airlines drops in-flight 9/11 conspiracy movie
Airline's mind already made up

By Jan Libbenga → More by this author
Published Friday 4th May 2007 09:27 GMT
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Virgin Airlines has pulled a controversial internet documentary on 9/11 from its in-flight entertainment system after complaints from bloggers and radio shows.

Virgin was going to show this month Loose Change, an 81 minute long documentary which alleges that the 9/11 attacks were not the result of terrorism, but a series of cleverly executed events carried out by the Bush administration. It suggests that American Airlines Flight 77 could not have crashed into the Pentagon, that the actual collapses of WTC 1, 2 and 7 were triggered by explosions, and originally that UA Flight 93 did not terminate in rural Pennsylvania, but landed safely at Cleveland Hopkins Airport.
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Although the movie has been thoroughly debunked since, it has been a huge success on the internet, and downloaded by millions of users.

Since Virgin also showed Fahrenheit 9/11, Michael Moore's searing examination of the Bush administration's actions in the wake of the tragic events of 9/11, the company probably decided Loose Change was a logical follow-up, citing freedom of speech as the main incentive.

The announcement in its flight magazine read: “Was 9/11 a government set up? Were the twin towers brought down in a controlled explosion for an insurance payday? These questions and more are posed in this controversial film, seen by millions, derided by many. Now it’s your chance to make up your own mind.”

The idea that a documentary about hijackings may scare already nervous passengers obviously didn't occur to the airline.

However, when the blogosphere learned about Virgins intentions it didn't take long for the critics to respond.

"I thought since that since Virgin Airlines was going to give us a 'chance to make up ‘your’ own minds' with regard to the 9/11 attacks on America, by showing the Loose Change movie in-flight, we all would greatly appreciate seeing the works of Leni Riefenstahl so we could 'make up our minds' about Nazis," someone from California wrote. "And, how about all those wonderful German documentaries from 1939-1945 showing how subhumans are destroying European culture, and how Germania is a bulwark against the Bolshevik hordes and jazz-spouting American apes."

Producer Nick Rizzuto from Andrew Wilkow's Sirius satellite radio show decided to call the Virgin office. After a heated 20 minute conversation where the producer promised them a media firestorm, Virgin finally bowed to its critics. In a statement Virgin Atlantic now says that although viewers have the choice over what to watch on board, they may be offended.

Earlier this year Irish public broadcaster RTE dropped Loose Change from its schedule after similar complaints.

Virgin isn’t exactly lucky these days when it comes to movies. British Airways has airbrushed a scene of arch-rival Sir Richard Branson out of its in-flight James Bond movie "Casino Royale.” Shots of the tail fin of a Virgin plane have also been obscured.®

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#11 : May 05, 2007, 04:20:25 PM


"Although the movie has been thoroughly debunked since, it has been a huge success on the internet, and downloaded by millions of users."

Saying it's been thoroughly debunked is quite subjective.  Here's a debate between the creaters of Loose Change and the editors of Popular Science, which claimed to debunk all 911 conspiracy theories.


http://www.thedocumentaryblog.com/index.php/2007/04/16/loose-change-vs-popular-mechanicsonly-on-pay-pa-view/




Joe, have you watched the 911 Demolition Mysteries movie I've linked yet?  It takes a much more scientific approach than Loose Change.

This is a good website for those interested in this subject:  http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html


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#12 : May 05, 2007, 04:29:20 PM


I have it sitting here. Haven't watched yet. Loose Change One had lots of mistakes. I haven't watched Two yet.
Not the biggest fan of Avery but I think they did a good job with making LC watchable. I don't even bother
when people say it was debunked. On this issue, most mainstream folks won't even consider the claims
brought up in the film. And to them, Pop. Mechanics is the be all, end all. I'm still waiting for more
evidence.

Looking forward to watching that other film.

Skull, did you see this?

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