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: May 14, 2007, 09:59:16 AM

Hello everyone,  (  This is from one of my high school friends and I thought you guys might be interested ....)


This is actually a workable solution.  I forwarded this on to 100 people last year and haven't bought Exxon/Mobile since.  But it won't work until everyone joins in.


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Subject: Strategy to get those gasoline prices reduced


This just might work.
GAS WAR - an idea that WILL work


This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. It's worthy of your consideration.


Join the resistance! I hear we are going to hit close to $4.00 a gallon by summer and it might possibly go higher! Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.


This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around earlier! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.




Here's the idea:


For the rest of 2007, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.


But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people.


I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us sends it to at least ten more (30 x 10 =3D 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more ( 300 x 10 =3D 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers. If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!


Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. !!!


I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you?


Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. 





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#1 : May 14, 2007, 10:17:14 AM

I have no problem with these companies making proifits, after all, many of your retirment plans hold Exxon/Mobil shares, if they decline so does your retirement.

What I have a problem with is why your government won't allow MORE REFINERIES to be built?! There is PLENTY of oil around the world - the fuel prices are set because not enough oil can be processed. Congress will not allow it to happen, why? They control taxable profits from oil and redistribute the wealth garnered from these taxes. They derive power by redirecting this wealth. Congress must approve all new refinery construction and they have not built a new one since the 1970's!

Change the guys in Congress = get a new direction on gas prices. Let the oil companies use these profits to build new refineries and re-invest in technology and prices can come down.

But you know what, when profits are high, and consumption is also high....business 101 says prices will keep going up to find the top side of pricing. When consumption slows massively, and everywhere, prices will begin to level off and eventually fall.

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#2 : May 14, 2007, 10:34:21 AM

You do realize that the cost of oil doesn't care where you buy your oil from? In other words, 100 gallons is 100 gallons of demand rather it comes from Texaco or Exxon. Texaco and Mobil are consumers of oil. The oil producers won't lower their prices because their production is still being consumed and that means, given the margins oil companies have to work with, they can't lower their prices much, if any, under those circumstances.

You want to do something about oil prices:

1. Push for higher MPG requirements.
2. Lobby for flex scheduling laws. Quick stat, a 20% reduction in traffic congestion (at rush hour) lowers fuel consumption during those peak hours by 50%. If everyone who could was allowed to work from home one day a week the drop in oil demand would be massive.
3. Support new wells to be opened up (ANWAR and the West Coast for example). Increasing supply lowers costs and the threat of new wells might lead producers to lower cost to eliminate the incentive to open those new wells.


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#3 : May 14, 2007, 10:37:26 AM

I'm looking into buying a hybrid car. Gas prices suck!
I'm a truck guy, so when I have to start looking at getting a damn car, something is wrong.

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#4 : May 14, 2007, 10:46:26 AM

Oil companies don't control the price of oil.   ;)  If we all buy our gas from other gas stations the supply and demand will be exactly the same.

BTW - Most gas stations get the oil from the same refinery.  Exon still sells the fuel if you buy it elsewhere.


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#5 : May 14, 2007, 11:25:51 AM

We Americans are spoiled. We drive big butt SUVs that get 10 mpg, we don't exercise/walk/ride bicycles, we're fat, and we whine over the price of gasoline.  Go to Europe and see what they pay for gasoline.  They walk, ride, and drive small 4-cylinder automobiles that get at least 30-40 mpg. They have a great mass transit system - trains/buses (we don't).  They pay heavy taxes on their gasoline purchases in addition to their already expensive price for fuel. They have sidewalks (for walking), we rarely do.

We have it well in USA. Stop whining, buy a smaller car, and get some exercise, and car pool.

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#6 : May 14, 2007, 11:48:00 AM

We Americans are spoiled. We drive big butt SUVs that get 10 mpg, we don't exercise/walk/ride bicycles, we're fat, and we whine over the price of gasoline.  Go to Europe and see what they pay for gasoline.  They walk, ride, and drive small 4-cylinder automobiles that get at least 30-40 mpg. They have a great mass transit system - trains/buses (we don't).  They pay heavy taxes on their gasoline purchases in addition to their already expensive price for fuel. They have sidewalks (for walking), we rarely do.

We have it well in USA. Stop whining, buy a smaller car, and get some exercise, and car pool.

QFT ^^^


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#7 : May 14, 2007, 12:09:38 PM

Not sure what QFT means. As an American I enjoy driving my SUV everywhere and anywhere I want. I pay for the right.

I could care less what the idiotic Euro's pay. If they're happy paying the equivalent of $7.00 per gallon because of taxes and have some socialist regime tell them to ride a bus or ride a bike - great. I do not.

Stop whining and stop driving and the price comes down.

Dalbuc - you are surprising. I find myself agreeing with you on many topics, not all, but many more than I anticipated! You are right on with your post.

Don't tell me what and how to buy. Make cars that go further on less, drill in Anwar and the Gulf of Mexico (as the Chinese already are) and build more processing capacity (ie American refineries). Don't compare my country to some idotic, backwards, socialist nightmare of a country. Why would I give a government more power and more money to screw things up with?

Thomas Jefferson told us that government is the enemy of the people and the only good government was small government.

Good luck with that Hybrid car bucwilde - it will cost you MUCH more, offer MUCH less, and you will be overall less satisfied. Most hybrids actually consume MORE gasoline because the gas engine is so small it is underpowered on long distance trips is less fuel efficient. Battery's rely on braking often and thusly only pay off while driving in cities.

This is overall a great country - we just need to reign in the ones trying to make us all attain the socialist tenet that we can't make them all rich, so we'll make them feel good about beeing backwards and poor...er I mean socially conscience and aware

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#8 : May 14, 2007, 12:47:00 PM

Oh yeah, hope there's enough oil resources to feed your kid's and grandkid's SUVs (I mean gas hogs).

I doubt there will be enough.

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#9 : May 14, 2007, 12:53:47 PM

Oh yeah, hope there's enough oil resources to feed your kid's and grandkid's SUVs (I mean gas hogs).

Cars and trucks aren't a problem because there are plenty of alternatives.  Air travel is the major issue in twenty to thirty years time because there are no alternatives to jet fuel with enough energy to get a jet-liner off the ground.


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#10 : May 14, 2007, 12:58:00 PM

I just need to be comfortable when I drive.

At 6'7", I'll be damned if I try to fold myself into a four cyclinder anything.

I'll drive my full size pickup, and drive it with a smile ;)

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#11 : May 14, 2007, 02:46:44 PM

Bring back the electric car.   

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#12 : May 14, 2007, 03:04:32 PM

I remember them telling me 25 years ago that the oil would be all gone by today...

Then the technology of fuel injectors superceded 2 and 4 barrell carbueratours, which effectively doubled the oil reserves. Then we found more oil reserves and found a way to extract oil from the sands in Canada (inability to process this in the 70's). When folks tell you something is running in short supply...reach for your wallet and guard your voters registration card!

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#13 : May 14, 2007, 03:19:15 PM


Please correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember some countries in Europe
having higher gas taxes in order to "encourage" use of public transportation.
Seeing that having all of those cars on the road affects the quality of the air
and subsequently our health, I am OK with the government stepping in
for public health reasons in public places, like the air we all breathe.

I am NOT OK with government telling a private business to ban smoking
in their place. I am not OK with government telling restaurant to ban
certain ingredients because they're bad for us. If I want to eat healthy
and stay away from smoke, I avoid those restaurants.

Obviously, Americans aren't going to make the change on their own. At least
we haven't done so yet. I don't want the gov't to tell me what car to drive.
However, I would like the government for force the auto makers to use
a larger % of R & D on electric cars and other alternatives. And maybe
the government can use some tax money and use that for R & D.
This is an important issue that affects our health.

Buc, are you OK with the government or some governmental agency
making sure autos pass safety tests and autos have a certain level
of fuel efficiency? Or do you want to government totally out of it?
If not, where do you draw the line?

Do you want the government completely out of our lives? If so, do
you support legalizing Marijuana and some hallucinogens?

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#14 : May 14, 2007, 03:21:09 PM

I remember them telling me 25 years ago that the oil would be all gone by today...


At 2003 consumption levels [2], the remaining reserves represent 44.6 years of oil and 66.2 years of natural gas.


[2] U.S. Energy Information Administration, International Energy Annual 2002, March 2004

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