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I'm sorry to tell you, Bucs fans, that we are not the most suffering fans in history.  After analyzing volumes of data, here is what my computer spit out.   Comments welcome.

20)  Tie:  Blackhawks, Bruins, Flyers, Sabers and Capitals fans have not won in eons, but who cares its hockey.  The Lightning won the Cup almost right away, and so suddenly hockey just isn't what it used to be.  For some reason they feel better about losing to Canadian teams than to Sun Belt teams.  We won so suck on it. Go Anaheim Mighty Ducks!

19) Vikings fans have lost four Superbowls.  Yeah they have the Purple People Eaters and they used to play in 40 below weather.  You gotta respect that.

18) Wizards fans won once in 1978, but are usually horrible.  They had to change their name from Bullets because too many fans were contemplating suicide.

17) Eagles fans who have never won a Superbowl.  They deserve all the pain they get from coming just that close...almost...nope. But still those fat cheesesteak eating loudmouths are technically suffering kind of like when a rat is caught on one of those sticky things.  They squeal in pain but we can't be sure they really have human feelings.

16) Mariners fans haven't even won a pennant since their inception in 1977, and lets not mention the Pilots.  But Seattle people aren't focused on it. They will have a cup of coffee and change the subject.

15) White Sox fans won in 1917 and not again until 2005. But they didn't feel too bad because their crosstown rivals were just as bad and took the negative attention away.

14) Knicks fans never really know how sorry their team is.  The last time they won they had to keep the Gangs of New York from fighting in the stands.  Knicks fans are absolutely convinced every year that they have the players to win it all.  Thats why they won't tolerate rebuilding.  There is no reason they can't win every year. Its just bad coaching. They are thinking about retiring Tim Thomas's number.

13) Phillies fans did win the World Series in 1980, the only one in their history which started in 1901.  The Phillies have lost more games than any other pro sports franchise in history.  But I'm not sure that they teach sports history to Philadelphia school children because they don't seem to think they are that bad.

12) Indians fans have won twice since their inception in 1915.  The last one was 1948.  Plus they have the most politically incorrect logo.  I'm not sure they know about the alternatives though.  Winning isn't really something they think about.

11) Warriors fans are a patient bunch.  They can see the rebuilding plan that is going to come to fruition in five years.  Just be patient.  They know their team sucks, but they can see the potential.  The ultimate "Wait til next year or the year after" fans.

10) Cubs fans, ah the lovable Cubbies, when they last won most of their players were Normans and Saxons.  You just want to hug them if they weren't so drunk and unemployed.  But they aren't the worst off because they had the bleachers and beer and Harry Carry.   They have their Billy Goat curse, like Bucs fans they are secretly in love with their own losing.

9) Hawks fans can not look directly at their team. They have to look through a pinhole or through a cloudy mirror or something.  They have never won anything. The Hawks are terribleness in its most pure and elemental form.  They would suffer more if they weren't so apathetic. 

8) Red Sox fans have suffered many years, but we saw their true colors when they won.  They act like they have 27 pennants flying from their stadium, not 1.  Yeah they suffered but if they didn't they would have been horrible winners.

7) Bills fans losing four Superbowls in a row thats gotta hurt more.  Is there anyone in Buccaneer lore that can compare to Scott Norwood?  No.  If someone says "I'm a Bills fan" your first reaction is to laugh. Some can squelch it. Others can't.

6) Lions fans are hapless.  They accept losing pretty easily.  Sure they get their hopes up like everybody, but they are the least surprised when things go South.  Matt Millen is trying his best to continue the tradition.

5) Clippers fans... Nobody is really sure they exist.  If there are they just stay out of the way.  Usually if anybody came to the games it was just to get out of the rain.  They are perhaps the sorriest franchise, but we don't have statistics about this mysterious bunch of fans. But if they exist they are hiding in shame, somewhere where nobody will ever find them.

4) Bucs fans can brag that ESPN has rated the 1976 team as the worst team in professional sports history and the best quote about a bad team in sports history.  "The teams execution?  I'm in favor of it."  But we were so ridiculously bad that its actually a source of pride.

3) Saints fans. They may have been the fans that invented the bag over the head.  Its like come on man do something right for a change.  The Ain'ts just barely edge out the Bucs for pitifulness.

2) Whalers fans... well there are still some around. Every once in a while you see somebody wearing the Whalers jersey.  They never won a Stanley Cup and only won one division championship.   Now they are defunct.  Its the only major pro team Hartford ever had.  People wear Hartford jerseys because they don't have any other jersey to wear.  They would have to go naked otherwise.

1) Browns fans yeah they had Jim Brown and after that nothing but pain.  There is something about a Browns fan. You can see it in their eyes.  The hopelessness.  Not like the Lions or Bucs. They knew their teams sucked most of the time.  Every year Browns fans have new hope and every year like clockwork everything goes to hell.  They have the look in their eyes like why did God leave us?  Thats why I think the Browns fans are the most suffering fans.
Itch,
This is pretty cool, but its hard to see that the Browns would be #1.  If you look back at their history in the 50s and 60s and see how many championships they won during that time its hard to say they are the most suffering.

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2.  For some it would be better if they remained silent and be thought a fool than to speak and erase all doubt.

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#1 : May 28, 2007, 01:30:11 AM

Thanks for the responses.  I have updated my computer program and these are the new results.

I'm sorry to tell you, Bucs fans, that we are not the most suffering fans in history.  After analyzing volumes of data, here is what my computer spit out.   This is not just longest suffering.  Its a combination of length and degree of suffering. Comments welcome.

25)  Tie:  Blackhawks, Bruins, Flyers, Sabers and Capitals fans have not won in eons, but who cares its hockey.  The Lightning won the Cup almost right away, and so suddenly hockey just isn't what it used to be.  For some reason they feel better about losing to Canadian teams than to Sun Belt teams.  We won so suck on it. Go Anaheim Mighty Ducks!

24) All Soccer fans in the United States because they are fans of the Rodney Dangerfield of American sports.

23) Vikings fans have lost four Superbowls.  Yeah they have the Purple People Eaters and they used to play in 40 below weather.  You gotta respect that.

22) Devil Rays fans are the new kids on the chart and climbing fast.  The Rays have packed a lot of ineptitude into a few years.  No fans have ever been hated as much...by the team owner!  There are a couple Denny's Restaurants with a higher payroll.  They may already be the most jaded fans.

21) Wizards fans won once in 1978, but are usually horrible.  They had to change their name from Bullets because too many fans were contemplating suicide.

20) Eagles fans who have never won a Superbowl.  They deserve all the pain they get from coming just that close...almost...nope.  But still those fat cheesesteak eating loudmouths are technically suffering kind of like when a rat is caught on one of those sticky things.  They squeal in pain but we can't be sure they really have human feelings.

19) Mariners fans haven't even won a pennant since their inception in 1977, and lets not mention the Pilots.  But Seattle people aren't focused on it. They will have a cup of coffee and change the subject.

18) White Sox fans won in 1917 and not again until 2005. But they didn't feel too bad because their crosstown rivals were just as bad and took the negative attention away.

17) Knicks fans never really know how sorry their team is.  The last time they won they had to keep the Gangs of New York from fighting in the stands.  Knicks fans are absolutely convinced every year that they have the players to win it all.  Thats why they won't tolerate rebuilding.  There is no reason they can't win every year. Its just bad coaching. They are thinking about retiring Tim Thomas's number.

16) Phillies fans did win the World Series in 1980, the only one in their history which started in 1901.  The Phillies have lost more games than any other pro sports franchise in history.  But I'm not sure that they teach sports history to Philadelphia school children because they don't seem to think they are that bad.

15) Indians fans have won twice since their inception in 1915.  The last one was 1948.  Plus they have the most politically incorrect logo.  I'm not sure they know about the alternatives though.  Winning isn't really something they think about.

14) Warriors fans are a patient bunch.  They can see the rebuilding plan that is going to come to fruition in five years.  Just be patient.  They know their team sucks, but they can see the potential.  The ultimate "Wait til next year or the year after" fans.

13) Cubs fans, ah the lovable Cubbies, when they last won most of their players were Normans and Saxons.  You just want to hug them if they weren't so drunk and unemployed.  But they aren't the worst off because they had the bleachers and beer and Harry Carry.   They have their Billy Goat curse, like Bucs fans they are secretly in love with their own losing.

12) Royals fans didn't have any hope until they paid about $150 million to Gil Meche.  He must be the owner's son-in-law is all I can figure.  Like the D-Rays they have a lot of good young future Yankees and Red Sox.   The light at the end of their tunnel is the train called "Relocation."

11) Hawks fans can not look directly at their team. They have to look through a pinhole or through a cloudy mirror or something.  They have never won anything. The Hawks are terribleness in its most pure and elemental form.  They would suffer more if they weren't so apathetic. 

10) Cardinal football fans also have one of the worst owners in sports history outside of Tampa Bay which has probably had the two worst owners in history in Culverhouse and Namoli.  Bidwell is tied for 3rd worst with Sterling of the Clippers.  The worst was in 2000 when FEMA showed up and started unloading trailers onto the field.

9) Red Sox fans have suffered many years, but we saw their true colors when they won.  They act like they have 27 pennants flying from their stadium, not 1.  Yeah they suffered but if they didn't they would have been horrible winners.

8) Bills fans losing four Superbowls in a row thats gotta hurt more.  Is there anyone in Buccaneer lore that can compare to Scott Norwood?  No.  If someone says "I'm a Bills fan" your first reaction is to laugh. Some can squelch it. Others can't.

7) Bengals fans have watched their Bungles lose every year, except they did have one good year where they got to the Superbowl  Then one guy goes on a crack binge before the game and then their best player breaks a leg in the first quarter.  Game over.  Later their best quarterback gets knocked out.  Season over. So they turned to the dark side.  One day they were watching the inspirational movie "The Longest Yard" ...Well lets just say that turned out to be a big mistake. 

6) Lions fans are hapless.  They accept losing pretty easily.  Sure they get their hopes up like everybody, but they are the least surprised when things go South.  Matt Millen is trying his best to continue the tradition.

5) Clippers fans... Nobody is really sure they exist.  If there are they just stay out of the way.  Usually if anybody came to the games it was just to get out of the rain.  They are perhaps the sorriest franchise, but we don't have statistics about this mysterious bunch of fans. But if they exist they are hiding in shame, somewhere where nobody will ever find them.

4) Bucs fans can brag that ESPN has rated the 1976 team as the worst team in professional sports history and the best quote about a bad team in sports history.  "The teams execution?  I'm in favor of it."  But we were so ridiculously bad that its actually a source of pride.

3) Saints fans. They may have been the fans that invented the bag over the head.  Its like come on man do something right for a change.  The Ain'ts just barely edge out the Bucs for pitifulness.

2) Whalers fans... well there are still some around. Every once in a while you see somebody wearing the Whalers jersey.  They never won a Stanley Cup and only won one division championship.   Now they are defunct.  Its the only major pro team Hartford ever had.  People wear Hartford jerseys because they don't have any other jersey to wear.  They would have to go naked otherwise.

1) Browns fans yeah they had Jim Brown and after that nothing but pain.  There is something about a Browns fan. You can see it in their eyes.  The hopelessness.  Not like the Lions or Bucs. They knew their teams sucked most of the time.  Every year Browns fans have new hope and every year like clockwork everything goes to hell.  They have the look in their eyes like why did God leave us?  Thats why I think the Browns fans are the most suffering fans.


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#2 : May 28, 2007, 01:37:20 AM

I'm sorry to tell you, Bucs fans, that we are not the most suffering fans in history. After analyzing volumes of data, here is what my computer spit out. Comments welcome.

20) Tie: Blackhawks, Bruins, Flyers, Sabers and Capitals fans have not won in eons, but who cares its hockey. The Lightning won the Cup almost right away, and so suddenly hockey just isn't what it used to be. For some reason they feel better about losing to Canadian teams than to Sun Belt teams. We won so suck on it. Go Anaheim Mighty Ducks!

19) Vikings fans have lost four Superbowls. Yeah they have the Purple People Eaters and they used to play in 40 below weather. You gotta respect that.

18) Wizards fans won once in 1978, but are usually horrible. They had to change their name from Bullets because too many fans were contemplating suicide.

17) Eagles fans who have never won a Superbowl. They deserve it, but still those fat cheesesteak eating loudmouths are technically suffering kind of like when a rat is caught on one of those sticky things. They squeal in pain but we can't be sure they really have human feelings.

16) Mariners fans haven't even won a pennant since their inception in 1977, and lets not mention the Pilots. But Seattle people aren't focused on it. They will have a cup of coffee and change the subject.

15) White Sox fans won in 1917 and not again until 2005. But they didn't feel too bad because their crosstown rivals were just as bad and took the negative attention away.

14) Knicks fans never really know how sorry their team is. The last time they won they had to keep the Gangs of New York from fighting in the stands. Knicks fans are absolutely convinced every year that they have the players to win it all. Thats why they won't tolerate rebuilding. There is no reason they can't win every year. Its just bad coaching. They are thinking about retiring Tim Thomas's number.

13) Phillies fans did win the World Series in 1980, the only one in their history which started in 1901. The Phillies have lost more games than any other pro sports franchise in history. But I'm not sure that they teach sports history to Philadelphia school children because they don't seem to think they are that bad.

12) Indians fans have won twice since their inception in 1915. The last one was 1948. Plus they have the most politically incorrect logo. I'm not sure they know about the alternatives though. Winning isn't really something they think about.

11) Warriors fans are a patient bunch. They can see the rebuilding plan that is going to come to fruition in five years. Just be patient. They know their team sucks, but they can see the potential. The ultimate "Wait til next year or the year after" fans.

10) Cubs fans, ah the lovable Cubbies, when they last won most of their players were Normans and Saxons. You just want to hug them if they weren't so drunk and unemployed. But they aren't the worst off because they had the bleachers and beer and Harry Carry. They have their Billy Goat curse, like Bucs fans they are secretly in love with their own losing.

9) Hawks fans can not look directly at their team. They have to look through a pinhole or through a cloudy mirror or something. They have never won anything. The Hawks are terribleness in its most pure and elemental form. They would suffer more if they weren't so apathetic.

8) Red Sox fans have suffered many years, but we saw their true colors when they won. They act like they have 27 pennants flying from their stadium, not 1. Yeah they suffered but if they didn't they would have been horrible winners.

7) Bills fans losing four Superbowls in a row thats gotta hurt more. Is there anyone in Buccaneer lore that can compare to Scott Norwood? No. If someone says "I'm a Bills fan" your first reaction is to laugh. Some can squelch it. Others can't.

6) Lions fans are hapless. They accept losing pretty easily. Sure they get their hopes up like everybody, but they are the least surprised when things go South. Matt Millen is trying his best to continue the tradition.

5) Clippers fans... Nobody is really sure they exist. If there are they just stay out of the way. Usually if anybody came to the games it was just to get out of the rain. They are perhaps the sorriest franchise, but we don't have statistics about this mysterious bunch of fans. But if they exist they are hiding in shame, somewhere where nobody will ever find them.

4) Bucs fans can brag that ESPN has rated the 1976 team as the worst team in professional sports history and the best quote about a bad team in sports history. "The teams execution? I'm in favor of it." But we were so ridiculously bad that its actually a source of pride.

3) Saints fans. They may have been the fans that invented the bag over the head. Its like come on man do something right for a change. The Ain'ts just barely edge out the Bucs for pitifulness.

2) Whalers fans... well there are still some around. Every once in a while you see somebody wearing the Whalers jersey. They never won a Stanley Cup and only won one division championship. Now they are defunct. Its the only major pro team Hartford ever had. People wear Hartford jerseys because they don't have any other jersey to wear. They would have to go naked otherwise.

1) Browns fans yeah they had Jim Brown and after that nothing but pain. There is something about a Browns fan. You can see it in their eyes. The hopelessness. Not like the Lions or Bucs. They knew their teams sucked most of the time. Every year Browns fans have new hope and every year like clockwork everything goes to hell. They have the look in their eyes like why did God leave us? Thats why I think the Browns fans are the most suffering fans.





You deserve to kicked, beatin', and thrown in the bay for your opinion on #17 (Words 9-11)...dumbazz, you forget where your at?




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#3 : May 28, 2007, 01:41:42 AM

I meant they deserve to be losers.  I fixed it.


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#4 : May 28, 2007, 01:47:30 AM

I meant they deserve to be losers. I fixed it.


You'd better, and I never made it past #17, once I read that BS, I was ready to rip your A, no matter if you're Pewter and Red.

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#5 : May 28, 2007, 01:49:39 AM

ok.  It said they never won a Superbowl, and they deserve it, meaning they deserve to have never won a Superbowl.  You just misread it but I fixed it anyway.


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#6 : May 28, 2007, 01:50:30 AM

Actually bro, your #17 needs to say #17 Philthydelphia Eagles...HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RONDE BARBER!!


Anything more is not Buc like.




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#7 : May 28, 2007, 01:54:14 AM

ok. It said they never won a Superbowl, and they deserve it, meaning they deserve to have never won a Superbowl. You just misread it but I fixed it anyway.


oops your right...misread........but like my last post said, anything more than a loud laugh and a "Ronde Barber" mention after is too much...they deserve much less!!!




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#8 : May 28, 2007, 09:36:49 AM

Some big misses.  The Bengals, despite playing better recently, have been universally terrible.  In fact, before Marvin Lewis arrived, they took the Bucs off the hook with the worst 10 year record in NFL history.

Despite last season, the Saints have been terrible forever, winning one playoff game in their existence.

I would also add the Cardinals, though their move takes some of the suffering out as fans have switched sides.  Any team that hasn't won anything since the 1920s has to be on the list, though.

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#9 : May 28, 2007, 09:44:15 AM

How can the Bucs be ahead of the Atlanta Hawks? Or Clippers?  Or Cubs?


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#10 : May 28, 2007, 09:57:14 AM

Super XXXVII must not mean anything.....and the KC Royals need to be on the list. They are the worst major league franchise over the last 20 years - since 1986.

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#11 : May 28, 2007, 10:52:13 AM

How can the Bucs be ahead of the Atlanta Hawks? Or Clippers? Or Cubs?
I'm kind of ignoring the last couple years for teams such as the Red Sox, White Sox, Bucs and looking more at the past history.  A couple good years can't erase all the suffering that has come before.   Chad Johnson can win the Dancing with the Stars and it won't erase the Icky Shuffle.


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#12 : May 28, 2007, 02:45:56 PM

I completely agree with the Browns. Not only do they lose, but sometimes in heartbreaking fashion, i.e. "the fumble". 

Still they sellout their games and are loyal to their team right up to the moment when, after voting to build a new stadium, poof it's gone. Browns fans lost their losing team.
And just to rub salt in the wound, their old team wins the SB after moving to Baltimore.

And they can't just give up on football, because the Indians, and Cavs are just as painful.

New Orleans fans: they have suffered in more ways than one, but for decades their suffering only lasted as long as the trip from the superbowl to Bourbon St.

Knicks don't belong on the list. Their suffering is more than eased by the Yanks, Mets, Giants, even the J-E-T-S.

Cubs fans, Wrigley is more of an afternoon club, where people gather to hook up, drink, and enjoy the few hours of good Chicago weather. 

Bucs fans suffered horribly in the 80s and early 90s with Letterman and Leno poking at us, but the Dungy era and a Superbowl have made us more spoiled than legitimate sufferers.  We are confident the team will return to winning we just don't know when, or under who?

Whalers fans?  As you stated in #20 "it's hockey, who cares" and is Hartford really a major city?

Bills fans should be in the top 5, not only did they suffer thru decades of mediochre to only get so close and miss, they also have to live in Buffalo.

Phillies, Eagles, Sixers, until they learn humility, they get what they deserve.  Seriously, throwing crap at Santa Claus? It's not suffering, it's kharma.



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#13 : May 28, 2007, 03:03:47 PM

You guys should do the colleges.  I went to Bucknell Univ.  The last star they had was Christy Matheson.  I don't evenknow who he is other than a baseball player at the turn of the century or something....that's why I root foro the Gators....

Who are the most suffering college fans?


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#14 : May 28, 2007, 04:19:52 PM

You guys should do the colleges. I went to Bucknell Univ. The last star they had was Christy Matheson. I don't evenknow who he is other than a baseball player at the turn of the century or something....that's why I root foro the Gators....

Who are the most suffering college fans?

Well, if you are attending college, none.  Unless it's some all male/female school, just live it up.  I had more fun during UF's 0-10-1 season (kinda aging myself) than any year in the real world.

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