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« : June 24, 2007, 05:06:12 PM »

Lets see if the government has the stones for once to lay down the law.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070624/ap_on_re_us/councilwoman_deportation

LOS ANGELES - All of her life, Zoila Meyer believed she was an American. She even won election to the City Council of Adelanto.

But now she is facing a threat of deportation for illegally voting, because she never became a citizen after being brought to this country from Cuba when she was 1 year old.

"To be honest with you, I'm scared. How can they just pluck me out of my family, my kids?" the 40-year-old mother of four said in a telephone interview Friday.

"If they can do this to me, they can do it to anybody," she said.

After Meyer was elected to the council in Adelanto in 2004, someone told officials that she was born in Cuba, prompting an investigation.

Eventually, "the police came to me and said, 'Zoila, you're not a citizen. You're a legal resident but you're not a citizen,'" said Meyer, who now lives in the San Bernardino County desert town of Apple Valley, near Adelanto.

She resigned after 10 weeks in office in Adelanto, a town of about 23,000.

Meyer, whose story was first reported in the Victorville Daily Press, applied to become a naturalized citizen and continued with her life: raising her children and attending two local colleges to earn degrees toward her goal of working in the justice system as a forensic nurse.

However, because she was not a citizen, Meyer faced a felony charge of illegally voting in the 2004 election.

In April 2006, she pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of fraudulent voting and was placed on probation, fined and ordered to pay restitution.

What Meyer didn't realize is that fraudulently voting is a deportable offense.

On June 18, Meyer said, immigration officials showed up at her home and told her to appear at their San Bernardino office.

Her husband drove her to the office on Tuesday, "and they handcuffed me," Meyer said. "They put me in jail and they frisked me and processed me."

"I said 'You're doing this because I voted?"'

The case is unusual but immigration officials were just doing their job when they arrested Meyer, said Lori Haley, a spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

"People are arrested on immigration charges from all walks of life," she said. "She can plead her case before an immigration judge, if she feels that she has reason to seek release for removal. ... Everybody has due process when they're arrested."

Meyer was released pending a July 18 appearance before an immigration judge who will determine whether she will be deported to Canada, the last point of entry into the U.S. recorded in her immigration record.

Meyer said she and her parents had visited Canada and she had gone many times to Mexico without anyone ever asking her to prove her citizenship.

Meyer said she does not support illegal immigration but she thinks immigration procedures should be changed to prevent misunderstandings.

"It makes me feel like we're all just numbers," she said of her case. "I see people writing 'this is my country.' It really isn't. It belongs to the government and they decide who stays and who goes .... You think you're free; you're really not."

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« #1 : June 25, 2007, 01:24:36 AM »

wah wah cry cry...

do it the right way or get out!


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« #2 : June 25, 2007, 02:14:39 AM »

Bush is president, democraps run the senate... expect more illegals as elected officials.


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« #3 : June 25, 2007, 02:49:11 AM »

wah wah cry cry...

do it the right way or get out!

The right way? She came here with her parents when she was one. She's a LEGAL resident.
Did you miss that part? My wife is a legal resident too.

From other stories that I read, she thought she was a citizen. So she voted. And THAT's why
she is in trouble. Imagine if the 40 million waste of Americans actually voted in the last
presidential election? What an embarrassment.

I'll venture to guess that the judge will see that this lady has been here 39 years and has
been here LEGALLY and will dismiss her case. One mistake and she should be deported?
I think we should deport the ones who don't vote.

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« #4 : June 25, 2007, 03:00:03 AM »

You know, had she simply not voted she could have killed someone and slipped across the boarder once in a while and all would have been ok.

Had she known she could have moved to a safe city and no one would have been allowed to ask her where she was from - even if she had committed a crime.

Had she simply walked across the border from Mexico - she would not have had a problem. Being that she came here under a law designed to help people escape political persecution from a communist state - she's toast.

We only want people to show up for low paying jobs ready to soak up free social services, health care and welfare. So, we can use that to buy their votes....

Well adjusted, self supporting - legal aliens? Well there's just no room for that behavior here! We can't manipulate that kind of person...

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« #5 : June 25, 2007, 10:08:23 AM »

Funny how all these stories designed to draw sympathy for people here illegally start coming out the week the Senate is supposed to vote on this. It just goes to show that our mainstream media outlets are nothing but a manipulation tool.

Im so tired of hearing these stories that talk about how wonderful these people are that jump over our borders. What about the people who victims of gangs like MS-13? What about the children that have been raped by illegal aliens? What about the farmers near the border that have to chase Mexican drug dealers off their land because our federal government is too inept and politically correct to do it themselves? Why won't the LA Times or New York Times report these events?

I'm so utterly sick and tired of this BS!

Entering this nation illegally is a felony under the laws that have been on the books for decades! Over the past 2 months I've never in my life heard so many excuses for people who knowingly commit a felony! The media, the government, and the corporations that hire illegal aliens are doing everything they possibly can to shove this legislation down everyone's throat. And they dont give a damn if you agree with it or not. In fact, our own representatives will call you a racist if you don't agree with their bill that they designed in secret and are trying to limit debate on. I dont even know if we can call ourselves a democratic nation anymore.

Congress has a 14% approval rating according to Gallup. And the President is down to 28%. And the Senate is still committed to pass a bill that 80% of Americans do not want. It's amazing. But maybe now people will finally wake up and see the sham this government has truely turned out to be.

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« #6 : June 25, 2007, 12:02:39 PM »

Entering this nation illegally is a felony under the laws that have been on the books for decades! Over the past 2 months I've never in my life heard so many excuses for people who knowingly commit a felony!

She was a legal resident.

The argument you are making is not relevant to this woman.

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« #7 : June 25, 2007, 12:11:10 PM »

You know, had she simply not voted she could have killed someone and slipped across the boarder once in a while and all would have been ok.

Had she known she could have moved to a safe city and no one would have been allowed to ask her where she was from - even if she had committed a crime.

Had she simply walked across the border from Mexico - she would not have had a problem. Being that she came here under a law designed to help people escape political persecution from a communist state - she's toast.

We only want people to show up for low paying jobs ready to soak up free social services, health care and welfare. So, we can use that to buy their votes....

Well adjusted, self supporting - legal aliens? Well there's just no room for that behavior here! We can't manipulate that kind of person...

She broke the law.  She got arrested.  This is what's supposed to happen.  Now, it seems she has extenuating circumstances and I hope she is allowed to stay.  The fact that she is from Cuba is probably the exact reason she will be allowed to, hardly the reason she'll be gone as you claim.  You're pissed that she's getting screwed when no one knows if she's going to get deported or not.  Save the anger for when something bad actually happens.  No need to jump the gun.

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« #8 : June 25, 2007, 12:12:04 PM »

How do you knowing break any law at the age of 1 year old?


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« #9 : June 25, 2007, 01:02:02 PM »

She was here 40 years and she never knew she wasn't allowed to vote? And why didn't she ever apply for citizenship?

She knew she wasn't born here. She knew her parents brought her here from Cuba. So how the hell did she think that makes her a citizen? Just because you have been here for a long time doesn't make you a citizen. Either you are born here or you apply for citizenship and go through the process.

You should try to find more info. before jumping to conclusions.

There are other ways to become a citizen as my other post pointed out. And she says her brothers and sisters
are citizens. If they were born in Cuba, then it's understandable why she thought she was a citizen too.

BTW, she has been voting since she was 18.

Here's a video interview with her...

http://www.highdesert.com/onset?db=vvdailypress&id=1522&template=video.html

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« #10 : June 25, 2007, 12:14:49 PM »

She was here 40 years and she never knew she wasn't allowed to vote? And why didn't she ever apply for citizenship?

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for anything. If you get pulled over for doing 60 in a 40, what do you think the cop is going to tell you when you say, "Sorry officer, but I didn't know the speed limit was 40?"

Again...my point stands. The media and the government is looking for sympathy for these people the week the Senate is voting on Comprehensive Immigration Reform and the GOP is thinking about supporting a bill that would drop sanctions against Cuba.

It's all designed for manipulation and I ain't buying it!

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« #11 : June 25, 2007, 12:16:08 PM »

How do you knowing break any law at the age of 1 year old?

She didn't break the law at the age of one.  She broke it at 36.  Also, ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law.  Hopefully a judge with common sense will reverse this whole thing if it's obvious she really thought she was a citizen.  But for now, a law was broken, she was arrested, now everything will get sorted out just like any other crime.

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« #12 : June 25, 2007, 12:18:22 PM »

I'm confused here.  Did she actually think she was a citizen or not?  The impression I got was that she thought she was.  If she knew she wasn't then she can go bye bye. 

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« #13 : June 25, 2007, 12:25:30 PM »

She knew she wasn't born here. She knew her parents brought her here from Cuba. So how the hell did she think that makes her a citizen? Just because you have been here for a long time doesn't make you a citizen. Either you are born here or you apply for citizenship and go through the process.

The other question I have is why did the pollworkers let her vote? It makes you wonder how many votes in each election are from people who should not be voting. Just imagine if just 600 votes in Florida that went to Bush were illegally cast in 2000.... Al Gore may be president today.

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« #14 : June 25, 2007, 12:26:26 PM »

She was here 40 years and she never knew she wasn't allowed to vote? And why didn't she ever apply for citizenship?

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse for anything. If you get pulled over for doing 60 in a 40, what do you think the cop is going to tell you when you say, "Sorry officer, but I didn't know the speed limit was 40?"

Again...my point stands. The media and the government is looking for sympathy for these people the week the Senate is voting on Comprehensive Immigration Reform and the GOP is thinking about supporting a bill that would drop sanctions against Cuba.

It's all designed for manipulation and I ain't buying it!

Yeah, the media made this case come out now so the publicity would affect the hearings. OK.

Why would you apply for citizenship when you think you are already a citizen?

And maybe she used to be one of those lazy/apathetic Americans all those years and finally
decided to vote. Or, maybe she DID vote all of those years and was never asked about it?
It's not clear on that.

Judge will most likely not deport her.

Good.
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