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How was 2005 smoke and mirrors? Did we get some lucky breaks? No doubt. But sometimes the other team got lucky breaks too. But that was a good team, a legit 11-5 season.
FRG is the most logical poster on this board. You guys just don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.
I actually think the Bucs could be a sleeper, but if they do it, it will be like 2005 - smoke and mirrors duct taped together thanks to an easy schedule and some vets putting together one last solid performance. My problem is the team is still a long way away from becoming a real contender built on good, young players who will be around for a while.
Quote from: JC510 on July 11, 2007, 03:13:43 PMHow was 2005 smoke and mirrors? Did we get some lucky breaks? No doubt. But sometimes the other team got lucky breaks too. But that was a good team, a legit 11-5 season.Because it wasn't a building block for later success, like the 1997 team. It was just a random thing winning games they were supposed to and getting lucky in a few others. The team wasn't a real contender as Seattle, Chicago, Carolina, or any of the AFC teams would have smoked them. Washington went 10-6 that year and sucked the next year just like us. They were a fraud too.
The 1998 team was a big disappointment too. There isnt a big difference between 8-8 with a QB that made the pro-bowl the previous season and 4-12 with a rookie 6th rounder starting 11 games.And in 2005 we werent a real contender like Chicago and Carolina? Week 14 we went into Carolina and wiped the floor with them and we were a a chip shot FG away from beating the Bears, because there's no way in hell their offense was gonna score.
I'm not sure there are many(if any) teams like that right now. I'm sure someone will throw NE or Indy out there but they are winning due to their QB's right now. If Brady/Manning go down it won't matter much how many good young players they have. Maybe Philly. Carolina..Pitt..but they've faltered. Just try to get to the playoffs and let the chips fall where they may. Our Super Bowl year didn't look all that Super until we got into the playoffs. If it's done with a few vet's on their last legs..so what. I'll be happy nevertheless.
There's several good young players hhere (potentially). We've drafted several guys over the past three years who could be keys to success for years to come. Still some pieces to fill in of course, but there's young building blocks in place.
There were a lot of Cooper's and Colmer's in 1998 too just weren't magnified by the team's success over the next few years that followed. Guys like Joseph, Trueblood, Caddy, to name a few plus some of the defensive guys from this year could end up being the Sapps, Brooks, Lynches, etc. of 2007. We shall see.
This season is dependent on the O-line... Â
Wait, so are the guys at ESPN not morons now that they are saying good things about the Bucs?