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#15 : October 07, 2006, 03:09:47 PM

This makes no sense. He would be a free agent at the end of the year regardless if he is traded or not. He is not going to sign a new contract with a team just because he was traded to them. Simms has absolutely zero trade value because he is a UFA at the end of the year.

Well why isn't he on the IR yet?

You asked the question, I gave a reason why they might not want to.
Unless a team wanted him bad enough and Simms was agreeable to go their and sign a new contract. If a team wants him bad enough they may not want him to hit the FA market. They may rather take whats remaining on his salary here and work a new deal with him once he is traded to them. A little far fetched that you would think a team would be interested enough to give a pick when they can have him on the FA market -- all depends on how bad someone wants him or afraid they may not get him once he tests FA market or they dont want a bidding war. So it would make sense if someone wanted him that bad.
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#16 : October 07, 2006, 03:16:53 PM

from what ive always heard about ruptured spleens, i dont think he will be back this year, nor should they even try, why take that much medical risk in somethingd? just put him on the IR and let him go to FA, this is rebuilding time for the bucs imo, and simms just doesnt fit the mold

im sure he will do better in other places tho


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#17 : October 07, 2006, 03:22:04 PM

It would be no easier to work a new deal with Simms by trading for him.  At the end of the year he's  a UFA all the same.   It doesn't matter what team he ends this year with.  No team will have  more rights to him than any other.  Thats why the "U" stands for "unrestricted."

If you are Simms' agent you are going to shop him around to all takers at the end of the year.  You are not going to restrict your bargaining because somebody traded for your client.


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#18 : October 07, 2006, 03:41:24 PM

It would be no easier to work a new deal with Simms by trading for him.  At the end of the year he's  a UFA all the same.   It doesn't matter what team he ends this year with. No team will have more rights to him than any other. Thats why the "U" stands for "unrestricted."

If you are Simms' agent you are going to shop him around to all takers at the end of the year.  You are not going to restrict your bargaining because somebody traded for your client.

What if they traded Simms, the other team immediately renegotiates his contract for a better 2 year deal?


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#19 : October 07, 2006, 04:12:41 PM

I think I can but I pray to god he doesn't.

I really don't want him coming earlier than he needs too.


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#20 : October 07, 2006, 05:06:47 PM

Why would Simms' agent do that?
What if they traded Simms, the other team immediately renegotiates his contract for a better 2 year deal?
Why would Simms do that? He's about to be a free agent, and he is looking for a long term deal.


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#21 : October 07, 2006, 07:40:45 PM

Why would Simms' agent do that?Why would Simms do that? He's about to be a free agent, and he is looking for a long term deal.

Why wouldnt he if the money is right--- FA can be a crap shoot. The way Simms played this year it's anyones guess-- if his agent can get a good deal why the hell wouldnt he do that especially a multi year where he sees 10% of the total contract


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#22 : October 07, 2006, 08:32:11 PM

The Bucs choose what team he gets traded to. He chooses the team in a free agent situation.


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#23 : October 08, 2006, 02:43:47 AM

It would be no easier to work a new deal with Simms by trading for him.  At the end of the year he's  a UFA all the same.   It doesn't matter what team he ends this year with. No team will have more rights to him than any other. Thats why the "U" stands for "unrestricted."

If you are Simms' agent you are going to shop him around to all takers at the end of the year.  You are not going to restrict your bargaining because somebody traded for your client.

Exactly.

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