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: August 14, 2007, 04:56:47 PM

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It was an especially long, cold winter for the Ohio State Buckeyes.

A relatively stress-free season for the Buckeyes, top-ranked since August, came down to a stunning, humiliating conclusion on Jan. 8 against Florida in the BCS national championship game.



It became an enduring black eye: Florida 41, Ohio State 14.

Now, while looking ahead to 2007, the Buckeyes still must shake the flashbacks from that final game.

"I don't think that there's any question in the back of everybody's mind -- I mean, how does it not?" defensive coordinator Jim Hea**CENSORED** said when asked whether the Florida game affects this year's squad. "You'd be crazy to think that it doesn't. I don't know that there's many days that something doesn't come up that you think about it."


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#1 : August 15, 2007, 03:26:52 AM

It is unfortunately all I have thought about.

Urban and Jim Tressell come from the same OSU coaching family. It may be un-acknowledged publicly by Tressell, but it is certainly just under the collective surface (and skin) of he and all of us in Buckeye Nation.

It is definitely fueling recruiting strategy and a redoubling of commitment. It was not just a loss - it was a humiliating loss.

That said, OSU was depleted by the draft this year - so it's shaping up to be more humbling. New QB, new D-line, new WR's, new RB, new CB's, new o-line.

Hopefully this fire will get the best from Tress - and we'll rebound and respond.

It really is highly irritating!

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#2 : August 15, 2007, 06:48:24 AM

I agree BB.  The "no show" performance was humilaiting.  In looking at this year's schedule we might go 8-0 with a depleted team before we actually have to play someone.  I would prefer the upcoming schedules against the Canes and USC's of the world.  This year... Washington doesn't excite.

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#3 : August 15, 2007, 08:49:38 AM

That loss should linger for sometime, and show alot of College football pundits that OSU was OVER RATED, and could not match the speed of an SEC powerhouse. If they would have lost a close game it would not effect recruiting as much as a demoralizing loss has.

Their schedule this year is laughable and the NCAA needs to prevent supposed big time programs from scheduling such weak competition, I've always thought that the NCAA is a mythological championship since teams don't play quality opponents all year long. The average champion plays maybe 4-5 quality opponents per year and that makes them a champion? What a joke! OSU played 3 teams in 2006(Texas, Michigan and Florida) and I believe the lack of quality competition hurt OSU in being prepared for UF. While Florida played a very tough schedule that included like 5 or 6 Bowl Teams.


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#4 : August 15, 2007, 10:25:05 AM

I agree - the level of competition is the primary culprit. I also think Urban caught Tressell in some well known tendencies and just blasted them. The players were not as fast and were not prepared for the speed of Florida - and Urban outcoached his old buddy.

Tress has been pretty blatant with his style of football - This Buckeye team was no where near the 2002 National Championship Team that beat Miami.

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#5 : August 15, 2007, 02:45:06 PM

While Florida played a very tough schedule that included like 5 or 6 Bowl Teams.
10 bowl teams in the 13 games before the BCS.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#6 : August 16, 2007, 08:40:41 PM

While Florida played a very tough schedule that included like 5 or 6 Bowl Teams.
10 bowl teams in the 13 games before the BCS.
I was just guessing, but it still proves my point that OSU had a soft schedule and when they faced a real team that was battle tested, they got dominated.


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#7 : August 17, 2007, 06:15:57 PM

I also think the ''short'' schedule hurt. After the OSU-UM game UF played FSU and Arkansas. That's 2 bowl teams while OSU rested and rusted.

IMO, the Big 10 is hurting itself by not having a championship game. Most the other BCS conferences have one, and it gets them a lot of extra attention (and $$$) in December.


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#8 : August 17, 2007, 06:30:55 PM

Agree on this too JG - I'm afraid the Big 2 don't want the little 8 (or 9?) to rob them of their national attention.

They, like Notre Dame, don't seem to notice the weakness that we are breeding by limiting competition. I am hoping an influential Tressell (and OSU AD) came away from the UF game with a similar analysis and diagnosis.

History does not give me great hope for this though. Tessell may buck the trend as he is a guy that likes to win championships. He has a track record of not settling but seeking excellence - we'll see if he can answer this setback.

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#9 : August 17, 2007, 07:16:47 PM

OSU and UM should, at the very least, move their game to Thanksgiving weekend or later, just so the lay off isn't so long. And also so that you don't get leapfrogged in the polls during off weeks.


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#10 : August 18, 2007, 01:16:12 PM

I'd love to see the study that says 5 weeks off is ok but 7 is too long and you get rusty. (Or however long it was.) I think much more likely is that Florida toughened up against the best competition all season and Ohio State was a mirage only having to get up for 2-3 games over the whole year and was able to put it in cruise control over the rest. Look at who the Gators saw over the last two seasons:

QB
Jay Cutler
Brodie Croyle
JaMarcus Russell
Andre Woodson
Erik Ainge

RB
Joseph Addai
Jerrious Norwood
Leon Washington
Kenny Irons
Darren McFadden
Felix Jones

WR
Willie Reid
Dewayne Bowe
Robert Meachem
Craig Davis
Sidney Rice
Marcus Monk
Earl Bennett

OL
Andrew Whitworth
Max Jean-Gilles
Ben Grubbs
Arron Sears
Tony Ugoh
Marshall Yanda
Mario Henderson
Andre Smith

DL
Broderick Bunkley
Claude Wroten
Jamaal Anderson
Justin Harrell
Turk McBride
Quentin Moses
Charles Johnson
Mark Anderson
Glenn Dorsey
Tyson Jackson

LB
Ernie Sims
Chad Greenway
Demeco Ryans
Abdul Hodge
Lawrence Timmons
Buster Davis

DB
Jason Allen
Antonio Cromartie
Roman Harper
Jonathan Joseph
Tim Jennings
Ko Simpson
LaRon Landry
Chris Houston
Jonathan Wade

That is a TON of pro talent. Nothing Ohio State has phased them after seeing these guys over the course of your career.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#11 : August 19, 2007, 07:02:38 PM

If OSU actually played teams that were a threat instead of putting together a cakewalk schedule they would have been ready for the talent UF had. Either that or they would have been exposed for being a fraud like they were.


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#12 : August 19, 2007, 07:04:20 PM

BTW OSU didn't even play the toughest team  in their conference-Wisconsin.


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#13 : August 19, 2007, 07:43:18 PM

If OSU actually played teams that were a threat instead of putting together a cakewalk schedule they would have been ready for the talent UF had. Either that or they would have been exposed for being a fraud like they were.
OSU scheduled all that is usually expected - their normal conference teams, a few cupcake out of conference teams, and one heavyweight out of conference team (Texas). The problem is when you play the dregs of the Big 11, you see virtually no pro talent. The lesser teams of the SEC still have blue chip players like Andre Woodson, Earl Bennett, Jay Cutler, Jonathan Goff, Patrick Willis, Jerrious Norwood, etc. to match up against.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#14 : August 20, 2007, 01:56:28 AM

SEC was pretty bad prior to Florida landing Spurrier. Many years Bama was the bell of the ball. It is a natural cycle.

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