Why Do You Like or Dislike Gruden/Allen?

[buckit]

Yea, not like the great Bill Cower ever made a dumb decision...like trying an onside kick to start halftme, which gave his opponents great field position, on which they scored, and put the Steelers down by 3 TD's....

Bill Cower--1 Superbowl.

Jon Gruden--1 Superbowl.

I don't know what makes you think Cower was so much better than Gruden...

[buckit]

Bill Cower didn't know what Willie Parker could do.  Didn't even know his name.  He opted instead for Deuce Staley.  That's Genious!

[dalbuc]

Yea, not like the great Bill Cower ever made a dumb decision...like trying an onside kick to start halftme, which gave his opponents great field position, on which they scored, and put the Steelers down by 3 TD's....

Bill Cower--1 Superbowl.

Jon Gruden--1 Superbowl.

I don't know what makes you think Cower was so much better than Gruden...

Cowher 15 years 4 non-winning season
Gruden 9 years 5 non-winning seasons

Cowher's made do with a crum-bag assortment of QB's like: Maddox, Stewart, Tomczak, and ODonnel and a cheap ownership that doesn't pay to keep their studs around. I hate his Sargeant Slaughter routine but it works.

[BornaBuc47]

As soon as player gets hurt they go in doghouse and then out the door no matter how much they've given to the team.

[JavaBuc]

Kicks last second field goal to prevent shutout instead of trying to score a TD.

Are you kidding me?   I love that!   If I were the opposing team, nothing would piss me off more than that!   LOL!    It's their own faults for letting us get close enough to kick that field goal.    If you're going to lose, might as well stick a knife in your opponents back so they don't enjoy the victory so much.

[BornaBuc47]

Won't change his system to fit the strengths of the players he has. Instead he just talks crap about the players for not being able to adjust to his playbook even though his former superstar QB, Gannon, said his Buccaneers playbook was rediculous after visiting last offseason.

[olafberserker]

How about we turn this into a why we like/dislike bornaduc thread?  Constantly complaining.

[BornaBuc47]

How about we stay on subject and try and explain why you like Gruden as the subject suggests.

Why do you guys let this troll suck you into the same pointless argument over and over?

[John Galt?]

How about we turn this into a why we like/dislike bornaduc thread? Constantly complaining.

Always carping about the HC/FO regardless of the topic.  I'm suprised in the Happy B-day threads he hasn't blamed Gruden for people aging.

How about we stay on subject and try and explain why you like Gruden as the subject suggests.

I like him mostly because you dislike him; as I've learned that you are always wrong.

[BornaBuc47]

How about we stay on subject and try and explain why you like Gruden as the subject suggests.

I like him mostly because you dislike him; as I've learned that you are always wrong.

Damn, I wasn't wrong when I payed the money beforehand to go to the Super Bowl. In the same season I was at every home game including the divisional game vs the Garcia/TO lead 49ers and I also went to New Orleans for our away game. How could that be wrong?

[olafberserker]

Why do you guys let this troll suck you into the same pointless argument over and over?

I didn't.  See the sublent thread started just above you original post.

Very well then, Mr. Shaun King crusader, you're never wrong then, are you? You'll never live that streak of idiocy down, and rightfully so.

Since you hate the coach, and you feel SR and JF are cheating people, why do you come here at all? That's a rhetorical question of course. You come here only to aggravate people because the vast majority of them disagree with you. Why don't you find a more positive outlet for your misery?

[BucsBullsBolts]

You come here only to aggravate people because the vast majority of them disagree with you.

Actually, with this type of personality disorder, he disagrees just to aggravate the vast majority... Whatever the general consensus is, he goes opposite. Quite common on message boards, but still sad.