Why Do You Like or Dislike Gruden/Allen?

Right on Itch!!

[buckit]

Marty Shottenheimer was great with people....

[BornaBuc47]

4-12, RIGHT ON ITCH!
11-5, Evidentally our QB that year sucked and we got lucky according to everyone but me on here. RIGHT ON ITCH!
5-11, RIGHT ON ITCH!
7-9, RIGHT ON ITCH!

[olafberserker]

4-12, RIGHT ON ITCH!
11-5, Evidentally our QB that year sucked and we got lucky according to everyone but me on here. RIGHT ON ITCH!
5-11, RIGHT ON ITCH!
7-9, RIGHT ON ITCH!


You forgot a year ...SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS --- RIGHT ON ITCH.

[rocko23]

they lie to the fans,players and media

[BornaBuc47]

In former seasons we would have been looking at the schedule we have and saying, hell yeah, we're going to win it all! This year we look at the first five games and say, "If we go 1-4 or 2-3 that would be a great start." That's what kind of an attitude change has occured with Bucs fans since Dungy/McKay left and Gruden/Allen took over.

[Itchalot]

4-12, RIGHT ON ITCH!
11-5, Evidentally our QB that year sucked and we got lucky according to everyone but me on here. RIGHT ON ITCH!
5-11, RIGHT ON ITCH!
7-9, RIGHT ON ITCH!

I'm glad I have convinced you of my opinion.  You might want to change the title of the thread though.  It sounds like the Bucs are a TV reality show, like Big Brother.  "Hey who do you like? I love so and so.  So and so is just so arrogant.  I hope they vote him off!"  Sorry but this isn't Survivor Gooberville.  Its the NFL.

[BornaBuc47]

I don't know about convinced me of YOUR opinion, but I agree with the football reasoning as well. Either way, not matter what people like to think, I just want to win and see a bright future of winning. I'm willing to rebuild but in the same sentence I'm not willing to accept being arrogant when you're making stupid decisions and losing because of it. Be as arrogant as you want as long as we win. Honestly I'd prefer you don't, but if you win then I can accept it.

In former seasons we would have been looking at the schedule we have and saying, hell yeah, we're going to win it all! This year we look at the first five games and say, "If we go 1-4 or 2-3 that would be a great start." That's what kind of an attitude change has occured with Bucs fans since Dungy/McKay left and Gruden/Allen took over.

I don't get into the Dungy/Gruden stuff but that statement is mos def a reflection in the change of attitude towards our team.

[cyberdude557]

Marty Shottenheimer was great with people....

Marty has won over 200 regular season games....but has never made the super bowl and playoff record is atrocious.