Some stats of QB's rookie years

[coopsxx]

I picked stats of QB's who have running ability, no point comparing to Marino, Manning, Aikman etc..

John Elway - 7 TD / 14 INT / 1664 YRDS (11 Games)
Steve Young - 3 TD / 8 INT / 935 YRDS (5 Games)
Donavan McNabb - 8  TD / 7 INT / 949 YRDS (12 Games)
Vince Young -  5 TD / 7 INT / 762 YRDS (5 Games)

Gradkowski - 6 TD / 1 INT / 867 YRDS (7 Games)

but since he doesnt have Marino's arm, or Manning's height, we should let him go,

Hey maybe the next qb we get can stop the Saints scoring 30 points too.

[OpTiOnMaStA]

He's the guy here...nomatter what you say in his defense or somebody else argues against him. He is the man here, period.

[umguy1999]

Here is one for you sparky,

Shaun King - 7 TD's/ 4 INT's / 875 yards (5 Starts)

With Burt Emmanual <sp>, not Joey Gallaway, Mike Clayton, Hell even Ike is better than Burt was.  Get off the FIRST ROUND QB ROOKIE STATS, of course the guys you compare were bad they had bad teams or they would not have drafted in the first round, and high first round for most of them.

Maybe the next QB won't go 3 and out 6 drives in a row, against one of weaker defenses we face this year...

[mjs020294]

Maybe the next QB won't go 3 and out 6 drives in a row, against one of weaker defenses we face this year...

yes like Grads was the reason we didn't move the chains.  What with crappy O-line play, penalties and Caddy stalling is it any wonder we were going 3 and out?


1-10-TB38 (14:52) C.Williams left tackle to TB 42 for 4 yards (S.Fujita).
2-6-TB42 (14:23) C.Williams up the middle to TB 43 for 1 yard (H.Thomas, S.Shanle).
3-5-TB43 (13:50) PENALTY on TB-J.Trueblood, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at TB 43 - No Play.
3-10-TB38 (13:25) B.Gradkowski pass short right to A.Smith to TB 43 for 5 yards (J.Craft, S.Fujita).


1-10-TB22 (8:06) C.Williams left end to TB 18 for -4 yards (H.Thomas).
2-14-TB18 (7:23) B.Gradkowski sacked at TB 15 for -3 yards (W.Smith).
3-17-TB15 (6:53) B.Gradkowski pass incomplete short right to M.Pittman.

1-10-TB34 (12:02) B.Gradkowski pass incomplete short left to C.Williams drop.
2-10-TB34 (11:56) C.Williams right guard to TB 36 for 2 yards (M.McKenzie, M.Simoneau).
3-8-TB36 (11:18) B.Gradkowski pass incomplete short middle to I.Hilliard (C.Grant).

1-10-TB39 (8:59) C.Williams left tackle to TB 41 for 2 yards (H.Thomas).
2-8-TB41 (8:23) C.Williams up the middle to TB 43 for 2 yards (C.Grant; W.Smith).
3-6-TB43 (8:23) PENALTY on TB-I.Hilliard, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at TB 43 - No Play.
3-11-TB38 (7:27) B.Gradkowski pass short middle to M.Pittman to TB 41 for 3 yards (S.Shanle, S.Fujita).

[keeponbucn]

Here is one for you sparky,

Shaun King - 7 TD's/ 4 INT's / 875 yards (5 Starts)

With Burt Emmanual <sp>, not Joey Gallaway, Mike Clayton, Hell even Ike is better than Burt was. Get off the FIRST ROUND QB ROOKIE STATS, of course the guys you compare were bad they had bad teams or they would not have drafted in the first round, and high first round for most of them.

Maybe the next QB won't go 3 and out 6 drives in a row, against one of weaker defenses we face this year...

Right, because it's all Grads fault for the 3 and outs isn't it? I think King was playing with one of the best defense this league has seen....ever. Don't you think not being down 17 points has something to do with that offenses minor success??? I do.

[140BPM]

Here is one for you sparky,

Shaun King - 7 TD's/ 4 INT's / 875 yards (5 Starts)

With Burt Emmanual <sp>, not Joey Gallaway, Mike Clayton, Hell even Ike is better than Burt was. Get off the FIRST ROUND QB ROOKIE STATS, of course the guys you compare were bad they had bad teams or they would not have drafted in the first round, and high first round for most of them.

Maybe the next QB won't go 3 and out 6 drives in a row, against one of weaker defenses we face this year...

Get real.  King had one of the best defenses in NFL history working for him.  He also had an O line that was 3 times as good as the one we have  now and a running game that was twice as good.