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: October 10, 2007, 12:10:04 PM

Backup to Chuk 7 solo tackles 3 assists 0 sacks 0 forced fumbles

We really need to start getting some production from the 4th pick in the draft. Here's what other players picked top 10 have done so far...

JaMarcus Russell-Hasn't played which is pretty standard for rookie QBs even with the holdout
Calvin Johnson-11 rec. 192 yards 17.5 avg 2 TDs(Injured last 2 games)
Joe Thomas-Starting LT for Browns 8th ranked offense.
Levi Brown-Starting LT for Cardinals 10th ranked offense.
La Ron Landry-Starting S for Washington 14 solo tackles 10 assists 0.5 sacks
Adrian Peterson-76 for 383 5.0 ypa 1 TD 9 for 166 rec. 18.4 avg 1 TD
Jamaal Anderson-Starting DE Falcons 9 solo 3 assists 1 FF
Ted Ginn, JR-Backup Receiver Dolphins 2 rec 51 yds. Starting Punt and Kickoff Returner 20 for 505 9 for 63.
Amobe Akoye-Starting DT Texans 13 solo 1 assist 4 sacks 1 FF

Obviously the only player to do less out of the top 10 is JaMarcus Russell who wasn't really expected to play in the first half of the season. Both DEs haven't shown up to what they were expected to do. Gaines needs to get going NOW.

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#1 : October 10, 2007, 12:12:02 PM

Gaines needs to get going NOW.

Good advice that you yourself should consider.

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#2 : October 10, 2007, 12:13:07 PM

I blame Gruden....he picks all the defensive players.


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#3 : October 10, 2007, 12:15:53 PM

I agree. Adams would have 8 sacks by now except Gruden made a mean-face at him and ruined him.


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#4 : October 10, 2007, 12:17:51 PM

And Barrett Ruud is a HUGE liability.

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#5 : October 10, 2007, 12:20:39 PM

And Barrett Ruud is a HUGE liability.

Only when Gruden makes the play calls.


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#6 : October 10, 2007, 12:23:14 PM

Adams hasn't been any revelation and he's struggling to even be effective in most games. You'd like to see more flashes from him of the pass rush skills that pushed him into the top 10 especially against a lot of the B team type players he's seen. <insert but he's gotten close and/or tries really hard arguments here>.

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#7 : October 10, 2007, 12:53:16 PM

I think last week was the perfect game to let him loose, see a lot of action and see what he can do out there, and that's what the staff did. He's clearly a work in progress. It's true he's not making the immediate impact you'd expect of the #4 pick, but if in a couple of years he becomes a beast, I won't be complaining about last week.

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#8 : October 10, 2007, 01:01:48 PM

Week 4 against Travelle Wharton and David Carr was his best opportunity for a breakout performance. Michael Roos and Vince Young are going to be difficult.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#9 : October 10, 2007, 01:04:32 PM

but if in a couple of years he becomes a beast, I won't be complaining about last week.

See there is an obvious difference between your good-self and BornaBuc..........because he will be whining and raking up garbage long after Gaines attends his 5th probowl.


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#10 : October 10, 2007, 01:07:26 PM

So the difference between Jamaal Anderson in ATL and Gaines is 2 solo tackles and one forced fumble? Give this guy some time to develop. We need to look at his entire season before we can even start to judge the pick. Additionally it may take 3 years before we really assess the choice.

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#11 : October 10, 2007, 01:10:53 PM

He did block a kick as well.


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#12 : October 10, 2007, 01:11:55 PM

I guess tipped passes and a blocked XP don't count for much.




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#13 : October 10, 2007, 01:12:35 PM

Gaines wasn't all that at Clemson...   he was WAY overrated in the draft...  it was just a bad year for Defensive Lineman in last years draft, and its what the Bucs needed..    he's just not worth it thus far...  

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#14 : October 10, 2007, 01:12:48 PM

but if in a couple of years he becomes a beast, I won't be complaining about last week.

See there is an obvious difference between your good-self and BornaBuc..........because he will be whining and raking up garbage long after Gaines attends his 5th probowl.

I haven't said anything negative about him. Now you're just being spiteful. I even mentioned that both DEs haven't done much and he needed to do more. I don't think that's being negative as much as it's stating the obvious.

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