You have to leave Xavier Lee in the game, this is just insane

[keeponbucn]

Drew is the better pro QB while Lee may be the better college QB.

Certainly your opinion but damn, I just don't see it. Drew is worse than Rix, hands down.

[BuckEmUp]

Drew is more accurate then Lee.
Drew can read a D better then Lee.
Drew can play smarter with the ball then Lee.
Lee can run for his life faster.

Drew can pick apart a D with short/intermediate passes then hit the deep ball when it is there.  He doesn't push the issue and knows when to throw the ball away.  The problem is that FSU's Oline is so bad no QB has time to make their reads and find their target.  You hardly have enough time to find your first read and deliver the ball.  1/2 the time the Dline is waiting for the hand off.  There is a reason why RB's like Washington and Booker either have or are going to have good careers in the NFL even when they looked average in college, it is the Oline.  This is also the reason why Drew has looked poor while playing there.  Do you think that FSU lost because Lee came out for a series or because Lee threw an INT in the endzone and another later in the game?  In a few weeks Lee will prove to you why he has been on the bench behind Drew.  All Lee gives FSU is the ability to run for his life. 

[Runole]

Raw Talent   --- versus -----   fewer mistakes and knowing the plays..


Too many FSU fans are expecting miracles over night.  With the new coaching changes which in past were alleged to be the sole reason for FSU's less than satisfactory standards previously set by Bowden and company never has made a lot of sense to me.

It would appear that blaming coaching as being the sole reason was not so factual as once believed.


Just a theory but could it be that many of these "STAR PLAYERS" coming out of high school have become ordained and worshiped by many of their classmates before really doing anything?

JMO but I think FSU's problems are 90% due to the dedication and execution of the players.   Progress is being made but it is at least a season or so away for some real leadership on the players side to come forward.   Receivers are running the wrong routes, OL is constantly not executing and committing penalties, and sadly Lee looks lost most of the time.   

[GameTime]

  Receivers are running the wrong routes, OL is constantly not executing and committing penalties, and sadly Lee looks lost most of the time.   

dawsey, trickett, fisher.

[keeponbucn]

Drew can pick apart a D with short/intermediate passes then hit the deep ball when it is there.

really? Huh, guess I was watching a different Drew last year and the begining of this year. Sorry, the proof is in the pudding and you must be smok'n crack to think those things about Weatherford, the kid is AWFUL. Straight AWFUL.

If he was what you say then we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we? Didn't think so

[GameTime]

drew isnt awful.  its difficult for anyone to play behind that line.

[keeponbucn]

drew isnt awful. its difficult for anyone to play behind that line.

he's close then, really close. I didn't think there could be worse, inconsistent QB play than Chris Rix until Drew, now I know it's possible.

Same thing, as a freshman Rix looked like a few years would turn him into a Heisman candidate but what we saw his freshman year is exactly what we saw his senior year. Dude didn't develop, at all. Now Drew steps in looking the part as Rix did, everyone thought "all he needs is a little time and he'll be a heisman candidate" and the vicious cycle of dreadful QB play rears it's ugly head again.

At least with Lee you have the potential that he'll improve, Drew is what Drew is, a below average QB who holds the ball too long.

[BucsGuru]

Bowden will die before he steps down.  Unless Joe Paterno dies first...
I say they force him into a new role or let him go.

[bizkitlimped]

lol...no drew is THAT awful...fsu hasn't had a QB since charlie ward...and thats the truth

[GameTime]

lol...no drew is THAT awful...fsu hasn't had a QB since charlie ward...and thats the truth

yeah, no way would i take a heisman trophy winner that led his team to an undefeated national championship season....and thats the truth.

[Boid Fink]

Jesus loves Charlie Ward.

[John Galt?]

Jesus loves Charlie Ward.

Then why did Ward go to hell the Knicks

[Boid Fink]

Jesus loves Charlie Ward.

Then why did Ward go to hell the Knicks

Because Jesus knew Charlie Ward could handle the Heat.

[BuckEmUp]

Some people just fail to realize that there are other positions on O then the QB.  Drew hit WR's in the hands and they droped the ball.  But that was only when he had enough time to get into a 3 step drop.  How have the Bucs QB's looked in years past with a poor Oline? 

[BuckEmUp]

Just one game but Drew seemed to play pretty good when he didn't have to look over his shoulder.  Now he just has to get the team on a roll and take over the position AGIAN!