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: November 06, 2007, 10:49:39 AM

Bucs defense currently ranked #6 overall in the league, and #4 overall as well in the more critical category of "Points per Game". The Bucs offense is #17 overall, but are tied for #10 in the league in the more important "Yards per Play" category.

On offense, the Bucs are coverting 44% on third down. Anything over 40% is considered good. The Bucs defense has improved on their 3rd down conversion rate, allowing 41% at this point (down from 49% a few weeks ago) but they really need to get that number a couple of points under 40. New England leads the league in this category, allowing only 30% on third down.

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#1 : November 06, 2007, 11:07:48 AM

I'll add some more:

The Bucs offense is #22 in the most important Points per Game category, #15 in passing offense, and #16 in rushing offense

Bucs defense is #2 against the pass, #17 against the run, and #4 in yards per play.

The team has a +3 turnover ratio, 11th in the league. The Colts and Pats are tied for 1st with a +11 TO ratio. And surprisingly the Falcons are tied for 3rd with a +8 ratio



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#2 : November 06, 2007, 11:09:56 AM

lookin good fellas

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#3 : November 06, 2007, 11:12:50 AM

The defense is looking remarkably good, considering the weakness of the DL.  3rd down defense needs to improve (hand in hand with the pass rush).  The offense needs to step it up, especially in the red zone.


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#4 : November 06, 2007, 01:38:21 PM

I'll add some more:

The Bucs offense is #22 in the most important Points per Game category, #15 in passing offense, and #16 in rushing offense

Bucs defense is #2 against the pass, #17 against the run, and #4 in yards per play.

The team has a +3 turnover ratio, 11th in the league. The Colts and Pats are tied for 1st with a +11 TO ratio. And surprisingly the Falcons are tied for 3rd with a +8 ratio

People get all pissy when JG challanges the defense, but that +3 ratio is ok, but not playoff or Super Bowl like.  When we made the run, back in the day, looked like our defense scored at least once a week and if they didn't score we had sacs and takeaways.  Are they playing better than last year, sure...but they have NO reason to feel like they can point fingers at the offense when they themselves have not lived up to what they know is a championship defense...

Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#5 : November 06, 2007, 01:44:15 PM

I'll add some more:

The Bucs offense is #22 in the most important Points per Game category, #15 in passing offense, and #16 in rushing offense

Bucs defense is #2 against the pass, #17 against the run, and #4 in yards per play.

The team has a +3 turnover ratio, 11th in the league. The Colts and Pats are tied for 1st with a +11 TO ratio. And surprisingly the Falcons are tied for 3rd with a +8 ratio

People get all pissy when JG challanges the defense, but that +3 ratio is ok, but not playoff or Super Bowl like. When we made the run, back in the day, looked like our defense scored at least once a week and if they didn't score we had sacs and takeaways. Are they playing better than last year, sure...but they have NO reason to feel like they can point fingers at the offense when they themselves have not lived up to what they know is a championship defense...

That TO ratio is all on the DL, IMO.  The FO failed to significantly improve the pass rush in the offseason, and it is the weak spot of the entire defense.


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#6 : November 06, 2007, 01:45:20 PM

Doesn't matter if its the safeties.  It ain't getting done.  It's a team effort...IMO

Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#7 : November 06, 2007, 01:52:09 PM

Something I'm concerned with: Yards per point. The league average is 15.45 yards per point, yet in the last 4 games the Bucs have gone:

Arizona: 20.59
Jacksonville: 16.74
Detroit: 26.38
Tennessee: 23.38

The Bucs are moving the ball well but are having to work WAY too hard to score.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#8 : November 06, 2007, 02:04:10 PM

And surprisingly the Falcons are tied for 3rd with a +8 ratio.

That a very surprising. Considering that ATL suckage is pretty high.



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#9 : November 06, 2007, 03:42:36 PM

The only stat that matters.... 5-4.

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#10 : November 06, 2007, 03:46:57 PM

Something I'm concerned with: Yards per point. The league average is 15.45 yards per point, yet in the last 4 games the Bucs have gone:

Arizona: 20.59
Jacksonville: 16.74
Detroit: 26.38
Tennessee: 23.38

The Bucs are moving the ball well but are having to work WAY too hard to score.

I agree the lack of points is disappointing, but a lot of the cause is mistakes.  It's not that we're just really bogging down, but rather a few big mistakes lately -- drops, penalties, the fumble.  We're certainly capable of finishing drives, we're just making mistakes that can be corrected.

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#11 : November 06, 2007, 05:35:49 PM

Why don't the NFL get creative and create an index of the most important statistics for both sides of the ball? ie. there could an index figure, similar to the QB Rating, which would take into account yards, TD's, INTS, 3rd down conversion, T.O.P etc and all the most important statistics for offensive and defensive side of the ball. Then, this index could be used to rank defenses and offenses and then there really would be no debate as to who the best offense or defense in the league is.

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#12 : November 06, 2007, 05:37:20 PM

I just hope that Ruud's and Brooks' tackle #'s stay relatively low like this week. It means the DL is doing their job against the run...
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