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yeah thats what I thought. the truth hurts I guess. LMFAO
Quote from: UMguy1999 on November 21, 2006, 01:50:09 PMyeah thats what I thought. the truth hurts I guess. LMFAONo, just nothing worth responding to in your post.
Well this only proved my point, so thank you very much.....ahhh there is nothing like shutting up a bunch of know it all's, who actually only know what others tell them and have no creative opinions. baaa baaaa you bunch of sheep....
UMguy = funny dude.
Yeah, MJS I can see why you need back up....
MOST people in this forum have elitist views on the Bucs (a lot of the views seem warped and eerily similar). You just dog pile on people who don't like Gruden, the WCO. many of you seem to think you know more than anyone else, and the fact is you don't. You know what you read and I hate to break it to you but the PR does not get every story and when it comes to other teams and rumors they know very little.
Then when it comes to Alstott, he is old, he is not good, he drops passes, he is not a great lead blocker, he is over rated, he does not fit the WCO...bla bla bla. The fact is that there are guys who know more about football, the locker room and the teams feelings than anyone including the PR staff (who I agree do a wonderful job on B-U-C-S coverage) those guys are the players, the players that got all fired up when Alstott does on one of his runs, you know the guys who play the game???
For some reason they like Mike, they get fired up when he runs, the cameras didn't show it but if you were there and happen to look at the sidelines Mike makes an impact on the game. Go ahead and disagree but I would bet you anything that man for man there is not one Buccaneer who would agree or even think that he is washed up or over the hilll, even players from other teams put the guy over.
Then the ignorant ones who think local media (papers and Radio) are all full of crap and have no idea about anything when it comes to the Buc's. It funny how the biggest issue seems to be negative feelings about Gruden and Allen, that will set people off like nothing else. It seems like there are more Gruden fans in here than Buc fans, which is probably the case because the Bucs, did get a large boost in fan support after Gruden came and we won the Super bowl so many of you see not much differance between being a Buc fan and a Gruden fan.In one of the post some one was praised for saying that Gruden leaving oakland was because of Al Davis having his "hands on everything". Then others make the argument of Gruden/McCay winning with Dungys team, they are called idiots. Here is what I have learned:
1. The Raiders made it to the super bowl with Grudens team2. The Bucs made it to the SB with Grudens team???
3. Gruden built a SB contender with the Raiders???4. Al Davis made most if not all the personell deciisons
5. Gruden/Mcay won a SB together
6. Gruden/Allen/Davis were one NFL rule change away from the SB and then were in the SB
7. Gruden/Allen had 1 playoff game and lost it, and won the division.
So maybe Gruden not having a puppet in the front office tendsto work out best for the Buc's.
conclusion... Gruden not calling all of the shots got him an AFC champ game and a super bowl win against his old team...
Gruden having a yes man as a GM got well... a few losing seasons and a playoff loss against a team and a 6th round starting QB as our glimmer of light???.