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Something to ponder.... IE, gruden...
boredomkills01:
--- Quote from: Boid Fink on November 22, 2006, 01:27:05 AM ---If Gruden gets the team to .500 with little added talent, and a few key signings, then he keeps his job.
If he blows the cap, and the Bucs win 9-10 games, he keeps his job.
Gruden stays.
Unless he drafts, blows the cap, and the Bucs are still a sub .500 squad. Then and only then, will he lose his job. You freaking haters are killing me.
Open your minds and your eyes. They are not working with a diamond farm here...they are working with glass.
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As i said...
If we fail to make the playoffs next year, he will be treading on thin ice IMO, But he will definitely keep his job...
The following year will be the Deciding factor in that case....
boredomkills01:
First of All gruden has a Contract till 2008....
i have a ? for all the gruden bashers.... If gruden has two winning seasons here, back to back, Playoffs but no Superbowl.... will you still want him gone??
most people who bash gruden say that he "only won with Dungy's team"... and are still upset about the dungy firing...
so If your answer is YES I still want Gruden out, IMO you are Kinda contradicting yourself, Because to me that has a strong similarity to the Dungy Firing....?
(I am keeping my feelings on the topic To myself so as to keep the thread "user friendly" No childish banter in this thread please!)
DanTurksGhost:
--- Quote from: boredomkills01 on November 21, 2006, 02:17:31 PM ---No childish banter in this thread please!
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Good luck with that.
umguy1999:
My point is not Gruden won with Dungys team its Gruden won with a real GM. Now that Gruden calls all the shots and Allen just crunches the numbers we have had some bad football teams, worse than even the Dilfer years. Gruden ONLY Had success with a real GM. or an highly inolved owner such as AL Davis.
I would be all for keeping Gruden if he had a real GM, I think Gruden is a horrible personell guy and his record proves that. He is a good motivator for young players who buy into it, but Vets see through it after a while.
mjs020294:
--- Quote from: UMguy1999 on November 21, 2006, 02:25:08 PM ---My point is not Gruden won with Dungys team its Gruden won with a real GM. Now that Gruden calls all the shots and Allen just crunches the numbers we have had some bad football teams, worse than even the Dilfer years. Gruden ONLY Had success with a real GM. or an highly inolved owner such as AL Davis.
I would be all for keeping Gruden if he had a real GM, I think Gruden is a horrible personell guy and his record proves that. He is a good motivator for young players who buy into it, but Vets see through it after a while.
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You mean a real GM that spends 75% of the cap on D players and signs them all to contracts escalating in the same year. The sort of GM that trades away multiple high draft picks, in deals that go pear shape. The sort of GM that over rules the coach on draft day and takes a player like Marquis Cooper instead of Brian Westbrook....…mind you if we had taken Domanik Davis instead of Simms Gruden wouldn’t have needed Westbrook. [banghead]
Rich did a good job in his time in Tampa, but he left a trail of destruction in his wake.
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