Draft and Offseason discussion thread- 20th pick in the draft

[Fresh]

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/dt/sedrickellis.html

This guy is worth a trade up

[TOP SECRET]

I dont think so, I don't think we should mess with trading picks, we have multiple needs, and it would probably cost us quite a bit to get high enough to get him. IMO we should sit it out and take BPA at our spot, some good players are going to fall.

[Fresh]

Yea, maybe. We could fill the C,CB,WR need though through free agency. I like Jeff Faine alot, think he will bring us to the next level as dominate. I think Ellis will be a good fit here, lining him next to Gaines for the next 10+ years. If he leaves the top 10 around 12-14 he is there he is worth it IMO

[TOP SECRET]

Yea, maybe. We could fill the C,CB,WR need though through free agency. I like Jeff Faine alot, think he will bring us to the next level as dominate. I think Ellis will be a good fit here, lining him next to Gaines for the next 10+ years. If he leaves the top 10 around 12-14 he is there he is worth it IMO

Still would be quite expensive, I think we have to see how FA plays out. I like Faine too, but we have to see how Buenning is progressing, maybe he is the future there, maybe not. Also, Corey Williams could be a great signing in FA, he would eliminate the need for DT, I also would like to see us make a run at a couple WR's like Devery Henderson and Drew Carter.

[acacius]

Yea, maybe. We could fill the C,CB,WR need though through free agency. I like Jeff Faine alot, think he will bring us to the next level as dominate. I think Ellis will be a good fit here, lining him next to Gaines for the next 10+ years. If he leaves the top 10 around 12-14 he is there he is worth it IMO

Ellis would be a great fit.  However, I have a really hard time seeing him falling out of the top 10.

[Larry Brackins]

IMO, the first priority in this years draft has to be a playmaker on the offensive side of the ball. Garcia, Galloway, and Hillard are all in the sunset of their career.

Desean Jackson would be ideal.

[Fresh]

Pick:  1  Miami            1-15  .063  .539
Pick:  2  St. Louis        3-13  .188  .512
Pick:  3  Atlanta          4-12  .250  .516  [subject to coin flip w/ Oakland & KC]
Pick:  4  Kansas City      4-12  .250  .516  [subject to coin flip w/ Atlanta]
Pick:  5  Oakland          4-12  .250  .516  [subject to coin flip w/ Atlanta]
Pick:  6  NY Jets          4-12  .250  .523
Pick:  7  San Francisco    5-11  .313  .465  [traded to New England]
Pick:  8  Baltimore        5-11  .313  .516
Pick:  9  Cincinnati        7-9  .438  .461
Pick: 10  New Orleans       7-9  .438  .480

I think Ellis goes Cincinatti at pick 9, think the Saints take a CB at 10. He could very well fall to us, but I highly doubt it. There is a chance though.


Pick: 11  Buffalo           7-9  .438  .516  [subject to coin flip]
Pick: 12  Denver            7-9  .438  .516  [subject to coin flip]
Pick: 13  Carolina          7-9  .438  .523
Pick: 14  Chicago           7-9  .438  .543  [subject to coin flip]
Pick: 15  Detroit           7-9  .438  .543  [subject to coin flip]
Pick: 16  Arizona           8-8  .500  .434
Pick: 17  Minnesota         8-8  .500  .504
Pick: 18  Houston           8-8  .500  .516
Pick: 19  Philadelphia      8-8  .500  .563

[TOP SECRET]

IMO, the first priority in this years draft has to be a playmaker on the offensive side of the ball. Garcia, Galloway, and Hillard are all in the sunset of their career.

Desean Jackson would be ideal.

I would say that our most important needs is on offense. We have to shore up that Red Zone scoring problem, The defense is a championship level defense as is right now, the offense still has a ways to go, I think adding a dominate LT in the 1st, adding Devery Henderson or Drew Carter in FA, and then drafting a Bigger Reciever in the 2nd like Hardy, Bowman, or Sweed. That could be a big help in the Red Zone and would improve scoring, which would help the defense so much. Adding a guy like Corey Williams would put this DL over the top IMO, but we don't need him to have a top 3 defense, but adding him would defanitely help. Man, this will be a fun offseason.

[TOP SECRET]

You might as well just change this threa to "Draft and Offseason Discussion Thread"

[TOP SECRET]

Whats everyones top 5 OT's look like?
Me:
1. Long
2. Clady
3. Cherilus
4. Oher
5. Otah

I think thats how i would rate them right now.

[Fresh]

1. Long
2. Clady
3. Otah
4. Cherlius
5. Richardson

Micheal Oher is projected could even be a guard in the NFL, I heard that he struggles against pass rusher though. I'll leave him out and say he comes out his senior year.

[Boid Fink]

The Bucs need a fast wideout.  Period.

But not in the first round.

[Fresh]

I agree

[TOP SECRET]

I agree, but there aren't many I like... DJ Hall isn't blazing but I like him, Donnie Avery, Harry Douglas is a mid 4.3 or low 4.4 guy. I would rather sign one of the 4 (off the top of my head) Speed WR's in FA... Henderson / Carter / Berrian / Stallworth.

Fresh, I thought the same was said of Richardson? I have heard both about Oher, I have heard some say he could be one of the better LT's in the Draft, and then others say he will end up at OG, so I'm not 100% sure what to think. Another name to throw into consideration would be Tony Hill's JR. if it wasn't for injury concerns he would be higher on the boards. Him in the 2nd if a playmaker Skill guy is available in the 1st wouldn't kill me.

[Fresh]

Tony Hills missed aton of action this year with an injury, I thnk he should be there in the late 2nd or early 3rd. I think Bernard Berrian should be the guy we get, and get a LT/DT first and 2nd.