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#15 : January 29, 2008, 06:30:22 PM

the qb can't hurry the players to the line when the play is late getting to the qb.

and do tell where you are getting this information that the calls are late coming in? you and Carmella get your nails done at the same place?




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#16 : January 29, 2008, 06:32:07 PM

the qb can't hurry the players to the line when the play is late getting to the qb.

and do tell where you are getting this information that the calls are late coming in? you and Carmella get your nails done at the same place?

lol.... good one!!!

I've seen on more than one occasion Garcia yelling towards the sideline for the play.... only to get to the line and have to call one of those infuriating timeouts.

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#17 : January 29, 2008, 06:38:06 PM

the qb can't hurry the players to the line when the play is late getting to the qb.

and do tell where you are getting this information that the calls are late coming in? you and Carmella get your nails done at the same place?

lol.... good one!!!

I've seen on more than one occasion Garcia yelling towards the sideline for the play.... only to get to the line and have to call one of those infuriating timeouts.

haha, thanks.

he does seem to call a lot of time outs early on. though i've watched every game and i can't say i've once seen him waiting for a play before one. i'm open to the possibility, and i will pay more attention from now on. but as of yes i will still not say that is the case.


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#18 : January 29, 2008, 06:42:36 PM

thank goodness we have another simms lover to help pass the offseason.

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#19 : January 29, 2008, 08:08:48 PM

Streamline some of the language.

Does he really need "z42 jumbo rocket x 37 tampa right y90214 four score and twenty years back blinker left dozer t 46 twist vanilla fudge alpha 617 charlie echo boogie woogie" for a run up the middle?

I am tired of seeing the ball snapped between :02 and :01 on the clock.

can't really blame that on the coach. lots of coaches use lots of verbiage in naming their calls. every single word in there is important. instead, how about putting the blame on the qb where it belongs. he needs to get the team huddled up and to the line quicker, he's the on the field leader, and that's all his responsibility.

"it's like trying to learn chinese"-Michael Bennett

quoting one idiot doesn't make you right. millions of people have learned how to speak chinese, maybe he needs to just study a little more.
Man.. you really are thickheaded or just plain stupid.


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#20 : January 29, 2008, 08:10:48 PM

I'm still on the dark side, I think the extension was a mistake and I don't think he has what it takes to rebuild using young players.


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#21 : January 29, 2008, 08:30:21 PM

Game planning?  How about some players?  It is amazing to me that you guys actually think you know what goes into gameplanning and that you can actually tell which coach prepares better than the other...You can game plan all you want but when your top threat is a 36-year old receiver than it is not hard to stop your offense.

Think about it...We have only one big threat on offense but we still managed to control time of possession in nearly every game (including our losses)...Do you know who that benefits?  Our defense!  We also do not turn the ball over much and so this helps to not put our defense in bad situations. Do you really think our defense was the second most dominant group in the NFL?  I think we improved alot on defense and I can't wait to see what additions we bring to it but playing it safe, eating up clock, not turning it over and playing for field position did wonders for our group and a lot of credit should go to the coaching on the offensive side of the ball and special teams. 

I know that a lot of you guys want more risks taken but that would have killed our defense...If you want bigger plays and more points you need better players.   Gruden proved he can score with talent.  He did it in Oakland and when we finally got it going the last 8 games of the Super Bowl year we averaged 27 points a game.  You need talent to score...The game planning this year was based on what we had on the field.

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#22 : January 29, 2008, 09:26:00 PM

I’m not going to lie, I was on the fire Gruden bandwagon, in fact I was riding some where on that Bus. But now with the contract extension, Gruden will be around for another three seasons, I thought to myself am I going to sit here and dog and moan because the Glazers decided to retain him? The answer is no. I’m not wiping Gruden's slate clean but I will give him another chance. I’m heading into this off-season with hopes that after the last four seasons that GM Bruce Allen and Head Coach Jon Gruden can get this roller coaster heading on an upward movement

 * Cut the loyalty crap, play the player who is best for that position. (Yes that means benching Carnell Williams if he should return to the field in 2008)

 * Work on the execution, cut out some of the shifts and movements.

 * Be a better in game changer, when it comes to making the necessary half time adjustments.

 * Work on game planning.

#3 is the biggest one.  The two teams that are the best at that are about to play in the Super Bowl.  Look at what the Giants did when Graham was running hard early on, they saw what was wrong, fixed it, and won the game.  If we could do things like that, we would have won 2-4 more games this past season.

I would agree with number 2 as well.  That's more frustrating than anything, though.  Seeing all the shifts and movements, then Garcia/Simms/Grads/Griese/Brad gets sacked or pressured and has to throw it away, or they end up throwing a 3 yard dump to the RB or TE.

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#23 : January 29, 2008, 10:07:39 PM

#3 is the biggest one. The two teams that are the best at that are about to play in the Super Bowl. Look at what the Giants did when Graham was running hard early on, they saw what was wrong, fixed it, and won the game. If we could do things like that, we would have won 2-4 more games this past season.

 Not saying it was always the case, but in your example of the Giants they made a defensive adjustment. That'd be Kiffin's responsibility, not Gruden's. Personally, I think Gruden's problem is the opposite, he gets to be too quick to change a gameplan when something doesn't work for a play or two.

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#24 : January 29, 2008, 10:16:47 PM

I'm still on the dark side, I think the extension was a mistake and I don't think he has what it takes to rebuild using young players.
Come on bro you hate it because it wasn't the choice you'd have made.  As all here have said, JG has some things to work on.  Whether he listens to you guys remains to be seen.  But I'd agree with a couple of your "concerns"...Hope you're reading coach... ;)

Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#25 : January 29, 2008, 10:38:09 PM

the qb can't hurry the players to the line when the play is late getting to the qb.

and do tell where you are getting this information that the calls are late coming in? you and Carmella get your nails done at the same place?

lol.... good one!!!

I've seen on more than one occasion Garcia yelling towards the sideline for the play.... only to get to the line and have to call one of those infuriating timeouts.

Hate, you are the man. I like your style!

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#26 : January 30, 2008, 09:11:42 AM

#3 is the biggest one. The two teams that are the best at that are about to play in the Super Bowl. Look at what the Giants did when Graham was running hard early on, they saw what was wrong, fixed it, and won the game. If we could do things like that, we would have won 2-4 more games this past season.

Not saying it was always the case, but in your example of the Giants they made a defensive adjustment. That'd be Kiffin's responsibility, not Gruden's. Personally, I think Gruden's problem is the opposite, he gets to be too quick to change a gameplan when something doesn't work for a play or two.
So the Bucs ran 22 plays in the 1st quarter, 12 in the 2nd quarter, and 6 in the 3rd quarter, but Gruden didn't need to make any adjustments?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#27 : January 30, 2008, 09:13:11 AM

I know that a lot of you guys want more risks taken but that would have killed our defense...If you want bigger plays and more points you need better players. Gruden proved he can score with talent. He did it in Oakland and when we finally got it going the last 8 games of the Super Bowl year we averaged 27 points a game. You need talent to score...The game planning this year was based on what we had on the field.
So when is Gruden going to get some talent?

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.

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#28 : January 30, 2008, 11:04:43 AM

I know that a lot of you guys want more risks taken but that would have killed our defense...If you want bigger plays and more points you need better players. Gruden proved he can score with talent. He did it in Oakland and when we finally got it going the last 8 games of the Super Bowl year we averaged 27 points a game. You need talent to score...The game planning this year was based on what we had on the field.
So when is Gruden going to get some talent?

Gruden is not the GM...They have been spending their money and draft picks where they should have and that  is rebuilding the offensive and defensive lines...This off-season with cap space (finally) and picks we should be able to do it...Hopefully, we will have a very active and productive free agency period and draft.

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#29 : January 30, 2008, 11:19:39 AM

I know that a lot of you guys want more risks taken but that would have killed our defense...If you want bigger plays and more points you need better players. Gruden proved he can score with talent. He did it in Oakland and when we finally got it going the last 8 games of the Super Bowl year we averaged 27 points a game. You need talent to score...The game planning this year was based on what we had on the field.
So when is Gruden going to get some talent?

Gruden is not the GM...They have been spending their money and draft picks where they should have and that is rebuilding the offensive and defensive lines...This off-season with cap space (finally) and picks we should be able to do it...Hopefully, we will have a very active and productive free agency period and draft.
1. Well when Gruden said the old GM was holding him back and he needed his guy in there so they could work together, he invited himself criticism over personnel when things go bad.

2. Let's not forget rebuilding the offensive line did not come until year 3 and the defensive line year 4. Prior to that it was busty skill position players in the draft and quick fix free agents on the lines.

FRG is the most logical poster on this board.  You guys just don\'t like where the logical conclusions take you.
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