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I totally disagree. What did Dungy build? He came here with Brooks, Sapp and Lynch already on the roster.
This team completely gives up as soon as they get behind, even by one point. That has nothing to do with draft picks, free agents or cap space. The Bucs need talent, we all know that, but, when they are out there on that field, the players they have are a bunch of front runners. I'm not asking to fire Gruden, I know he hasn't had the best out there, but when your team does not know what to do once they are down, then that falls on the entire coaching staff. Yesterdays game was a perfect example. For 2 and a half quarters they are all over Atlanta, they are not scoring, but their moving the ball and the defense is holding. Then a fumble, touchdown and game is over. Why? Why do they go into a shell when they are down by one point? Don't tell me that Atlanta adjusted in half time, because, the Bucs were once again, moving the ball in the start of the 3rd quarter. Why does the defense allow a fullback to beat them up and down the field. Did anyone see that "fake" that Griffith put on Allen, that had to be one of the worst fakes I have ever seen, and Allen fell for it. Sad, just sad. This is not all on Gruden, but he has definitely shown that he can't, or doesn't know how to turn this team around when they are down. Newsflash! Adversity will hit you in the NFL, what are you going to do about it? And I don't want to hear about the schedule anymore, you can only bring up the schedule if you are having a winning record against it. If you keep using the "tough schedule" as an excuse, then that only proves that you can only win when you have an easy schedule. You play the schedule you are given. The schedule is given well before the season starts, so, prepare yourself for it!
I'm not even going to delve into this about Grudens team that won the superbowl. Any fan with any where with all knows that Gruden added key guy to this offense that allowed us to win the super bowl...Anyway, build his team with what? He has had 2 first round picks in his tenure here, how can you people not understand that he hasn't been able to build and he hasn't been able to reload because of salary cap hell??He is the same guy that got us to the super bowl, he is a young coach, and these are bad times for Gruden. This is our first year in forever to be out of cap hell. We have lost 7 picks via trades that have killed our ability to add good players who can contribute. What you are witnessing right now is what has been forcast to happen for years and its finally caught up with us guys, damn....I'm tired of hearing people crying about Gruden....We suck, we lack players, we are old on defense....I don't think Gruden is exempt from what has happened, and in fact I think he has made just bonehead moves such as coming into this season with Simms and Grads and being reluctant to play Rattay (for whatever reason). However I am indifferent to firing him. He is a young coach, a good coach and yes these are bad times but these times have been expected to hit us for years and its finally come full circle and it hurts. Now either some of you guys weren't around as fans when for years everyone was saying the cap is going to catch them, the defense is going to get old and so on and so on. I was hoping for a better offense as well to compensate for the aging defense, we missed the boat on some people and yeah that is grudens fault but everything he touches does not turn to gold.There is zero injury excuse to be used. Fact is this, our defense that has been forcast for years to get over the hill, finally has gone over the hill. The inablity to reload due to salary cap issues and the lost draft picks has killed us! We have zero at Quarterback and the OL is shaky but is showcasing some young talent. I think we have to ride this thing out with gruden. For christ sake last year he took at team that was 6-10 and made them division champs and a playoff birth with hardly anyhting. Some here are too quick to forget the past and panic. Cry if you want, whatever, i'm done with this goofy discussion on Gruden. Yeah he has made some mistakes, but the obvious fact for our demise is what I said in the previous paragraph...
Sure cause Gruden inheriting a 4-12 Raiders team with picks and a cap he and Allen created 3 AFC West Champions in 2 short years and never had a losing season together.I see your logic Beastie?
Gruden is more interested in improving the offense than winning games. The guy won a Superbowl with defense. Instead of keeping the defense elite, he completely ignores that side of the ball and now we are at the bottom of the league and in rebuilding mode.