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Quote from: MBF on February 17, 2008, 09:47:16 AMQuote from: TheGhostOfAlvinHarper on February 17, 2008, 09:33:00 AM I think he might be the most hated player by Buc "fans". The irony of you questioning how big a fan others are is quite rich indeed.Nah... I know I am a fan. Just because I don't support Jon Gruden doesn't make me any less of a fan. My sig line says it all.
Quote from: TheGhostOfAlvinHarper on February 17, 2008, 09:33:00 AM I think he might be the most hated player by Buc "fans". The irony of you questioning how big a fan others are is quite rich indeed.
I think he might be the most hated player by Buc "fans".
Maybe they should just put him in the fourth quarter...the Comeback Kid...Would not have hurt versus Jacksonville...
Quote from: TheGhostOfAlvinHarper on February 17, 2008, 12:24:53 PMQuote from: MBF on February 17, 2008, 09:47:16 AMQuote from: TheGhostOfAlvinHarper on February 17, 2008, 09:33:00 AM I think he might be the most hated player by Buc "fans". The irony of you questioning how big a fan others are is quite rich indeed.Nah... I know I am a fan. Just because I don't support Jon Gruden doesn't make me any less of a fan. My sig line says it all.And yet you would have us believe that someone who doesn't support the fourth string QB isn't a fan. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Not at all.. but I gathered most Gruden people blamed Simms for the poor start last year and were devastated and incensed that Gruden got any heat.
Quote from: bradentonian on February 17, 2008, 12:08:13 PMQuote from: Ryan24 on February 17, 2008, 11:53:27 AMQuote from: bradentonian on February 16, 2008, 11:03:39 PMStroud got a lot of crap for that, but he was the only one that was reporting that something was in fact wrong.That is absolutely not correct . There were videos posted on here which showed that Simms was out of whack and it was acknowledge by the PR people long before Stroud wrote anything. What Stroud did was assign a diagnosis to it. The PR reporting was that Simms' skills had regressed, not that there was a medical problemSo he suffers a devastating injury and suddenly is having trouble throwing the ball and people cannot relate the reduced skill level to a medical problem? To me...it's always been pretty much the same thing. If a guy suffers a knee injury and 18 months later can't run as fast, for instance, have his skills reduced or does he have a medical problem? Maybe it's the way I read through things but I've never found what PR reported to be all that out of whack with reality in regards to Simms. That is of course unless we are expected to read every word ever written to be taken literally. I don't think I'm alone in how I read things. What the Bucs did with him was work around the rules which all teams do to one extent or another. His recovery obviously took longer than expected but, particularly looking back at things, they didn't do anything out of kilter with him. Some GM's would be being praised for the brilliant way the Bucs made sure they hung on to him I suspect.
Quote from: Ryan24 on February 17, 2008, 11:53:27 AMQuote from: bradentonian on February 16, 2008, 11:03:39 PMStroud got a lot of crap for that, but he was the only one that was reporting that something was in fact wrong.That is absolutely not correct . There were videos posted on here which showed that Simms was out of whack and it was acknowledge by the PR people long before Stroud wrote anything. What Stroud did was assign a diagnosis to it. The PR reporting was that Simms' skills had regressed, not that there was a medical problem
Quote from: bradentonian on February 16, 2008, 11:03:39 PMStroud got a lot of crap for that, but he was the only one that was reporting that something was in fact wrong.That is absolutely not correct . There were videos posted on here which showed that Simms was out of whack and it was acknowledge by the PR people long before Stroud wrote anything. What Stroud did was assign a diagnosis to it.
Stroud got a lot of crap for that, but he was the only one that was reporting that something was in fact wrong.
[H]e has yet to shake the bad mechanics he has developed while trying to work his way back from his splenectomy
Some have speculated that Simms is not healthy and is a candidate to be placed on injured reserve or the Physically Unable to Perform list. However, that is not the case since Simms is indeed healthy.
And Keep, why is it ridiculous to talk about Simms playing while he's dying but not ridiculous for people to want to build statues for Garcia because he played with a fat lip?
It's O-V-E-R for Simms in the NFL, he's a white Leftwhich. I never want to see his slow arse behind center again.
Quote from: TheGhostOfAlvinHarper on February 17, 2008, 12:59:54 PMNot at all.. but I gathered most Gruden people blamed Simms for the poor start last year and were devastated and incensed that Gruden got any heat.By "gathered" then, it appears you mean 'used as twisted and convoluted logic as necessary to get reality to conform to my own misguided version of it.'
I agree Grads does suck. This system isn't for Simms, and there is no system for Gradkowski.
Quote from: Illuminator on February 17, 2008, 01:15:29 PMQuote from: TheGhostOfAlvinHarper on February 17, 2008, 12:59:54 PMNot at all.. but I gathered most Gruden people blamed Simms for the poor start last year and were devastated and incensed that Gruden got any heat.By "gathered" then, it appears you mean 'used as twisted and convoluted logic as necessary to get reality to conform to my own misguided version of it.' No I mean as in "Simms sucks, he's the reason we started 0-4". Which is what I heard/read.