A note about Gruden

[watson]

Until I see names of the individuals making these statements I don't put much credence in them.  And the statement that this player probably won't be here next year tells me alot.

[RedAlert]

Who knows how true the story is, tales grow exponentially with every passing, but generally where there's smoke, there's fire...

[Tampa Bay Todd]

But the main part I read was the player didn't expect to be back next year. So, maybe some sour grapes there. Most people generally burn a few bridges on their way out the door.

[DanTurksGhost]

Who knows how true the story is, tales grow exponentially with every passing, but generally where there's smoke, there's fire...

That depends on who's behind the smoke and what their intention is in sending up the smoke (ala "the Glazers will be selling the team").

A friend of mine owns an establishment that is frequented by several of the Bucs. A verteran player was recently in there talking to him, and basically said that things won't change until Gruden is gone. My friend asked him why, and his answer was plain and simple, the players don't trust him. He said how do you play for someone you can't trust. This player also figures he won't be kept around next year. Don't know what the validity is coming from this player, but I would say it's at least note worthy. This is apparently not a personal problem either as he says most guys in the lockeroom feel this way.

I know where he is coming from as I just left a company because I constantly was catching my boss in lies and I didn't want to put up with it anymore. You can't work under someone you don't trust.

When did Keyshawn get back to Tampa?

[dbucfan]

My brothers, cousin's uncle's sisters college roommate

Yea, and don't forget so many great coaches and gms are amoral bastards, like you sorta said to someone once.

[dbucfan]

A friend of mine owns an establishment that is frequented by several of the Bucs. A verteran player was recently in there talking to him, and basically said that things won't change until Gruden is gone. My friend asked him why, and his answer was plain and simple, the players don't trust him. He said how do you play for someone you can't trust. This player also figures he won't be kept around next year. Don't know what the validity is coming from this player, but I would say it's at least note worthy. This is apparently not a personal problem either as he says most guys in the lockeroom feel this way.

I know where he is coming from as I just left a company because I constantly was catching my boss in lies and I didn't want to put up with it anymore. You can't work under someone you don't trust.

When did Keyshawn get back to Tampa?

I really do love this board, rotflmao

[Grudens_Flame]

Who was the veteran?

Earnest Graham?

Edell Sheppard?...this guys pulling this out of his crusty sphincter.

"If you're full of bull crap then keep your mouth shut"

[dbucfan]

I am still laughing out loud, thanks guys.  I needed it today.

[miamicanes04]

Maybe we can get the Tampa Tribune to confirm this. What a joke.

[dbucfan]

I am sure confirmation is available via the normal sources used by the Trib, they are gonna miss the anon. speaker as well.  LLLLLmaooooo

[rocko23]

guys it really is true this is not the first time this has been said about gru.

[watson]

I didn't know Ira Kaufman had a retail establishment.

[BTownBucFan]

Who was the veteran?

Earnest Graham?

sounds more like Yatta

[Boid Fink]

Who knows how true the story is, tales grow exponentially with every passing, but generally where there's smoke, there's fire...

Or where there is smoke, there is a crack pipe burning...