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#30 : April 26, 2008, 11:27:56 AM

America: The greatest nation on earth in the entire history of the planet. Its working citizens will never, ever have to worry about obtaining staple foods. Count on it.

Yep the Romans thought they were special as well.   ::)

This shouldn't come as a shock to an intelligent person but every empire falls, and in the grand scale of things the US's reign at the top will be very short.  We took the advantages WW2 gave us and exploited capitalism for half a century.  Funny thing is that same capitalism will eventually knock us off our perch. 

Just be thankful you lived during some of the best years.


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#31 : April 26, 2008, 11:31:31 AM

America: The greatest nation on earth in the entire history of the planet. Its working citizens will never, ever have to worry about obtaining staple foods. Count on it.

Watch what happens if unemployment soars. Oh, you said working citizens! Guess what?
A possible depression could turn a lot of Americans into non-working citizens and that is
taken into consideration by the people who are talking about a possible food crisis. You
have to look at the big picture.


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#32 : April 26, 2008, 11:32:49 AM

America an Empire?

Are you serious?

You know what I mean.  American industry is an economical empire.  They have been exploiting around the world for decades.


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#33 : April 26, 2008, 11:39:35 AM

Watch what happens if unemployment soars. Oh, you said working citizens! Guess what?
A possible depression could turn a lot of Americans into non-working citizens and that is
taken into consideration by the people who are talking about a possible food crisis. You
have to look at the big picture.

That would be rather ironic because America was facing the exact same thing prior to WW2.  Political instabilities in Europe and the war that followed was a blessing for America.

I doubt that we are going to see a dramatic collapse anytime soon Joe but standards of living having already started to shrink in the US.  The global pie is being eaten by more and more nations, and American will just have to accept things are going to change.

Thankfully I am old enough and comfortable enough to maintain my basic standard of living but future generations will not have it as good as us.


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#34 : April 26, 2008, 11:42:16 AM

America is an empire.  We just use a modern term to describe it aka Super Power.

Food shortages will not be a problem for the U.S and anyone that says otherwise would be misleading.  The advantage the U.S. has due to its vast size  is that it covers various ecological niches from coast to coast so even if a climate shift does occur the U.S. would be able to adapt.

But for a small country that lets say is geographically located in a tropical enviroment if it is changed drastically to a desert like enviroment they have no way to adapt.  






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#35 : April 26, 2008, 11:42:53 AM

America: The greatest nation on earth in the entire history of the planet. Its working citizens will never, ever have to worry about obtaining staple foods. Count on it.

Yep the Romans thought they were special as well.   ::)

This shouldn't come as a shock to an intelligent person but every empire falls, and in the grand scale of things the US's reign at the top will be very short.  We took the advantages WW2 gave us and exploited capitalism for half a century.  Funny thing is that same capitalism will eventually knock us off our perch. 

Just be thankful you lived during some of the best years.

Spot on mjs.

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#36 : April 26, 2008, 11:48:59 AM

America is an empire.  We just use a modern term to describe it aka Super Power.

Food shortages will not be a problem for the U.S and anyone that says otherwise would be misleading.  The advantage the U.S. has due to its vast size  is that it covers various ecological niches from coast to coast so even if a climate shift does occur the U.S. would be able to adapt.

But for a small country that lets say is geographically located in a tropical enviroment if it is changed drastically to a desert like enviroment they have no way to adapt.   


We will be forced to adapt, and it will be painful.  People in 50 years will be living on less than half of the income they have today in real terms.  Big SUVs and pick-ups will be a thing of the past but we will still be better off than the vast majority of the population of the planet.

Incomes adjusted for inflation have declined for six years on the run, and prior to that they had only fallen two years since the WW2.  The winds of change have arrived.  The sad thing is the US was rich enough to protect future generation but we decided to piss the wealth up the wall.


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#37 : April 26, 2008, 11:49:57 AM

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The global pie is being eaten by more and more nations, and American will just have to accept things are going to change.

I agree.

I am not a fan of global socialism aka globalization but it is what it is.


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#38 : April 26, 2008, 11:55:09 AM

Food shortages will not be a problem for the U.S and anyone that says otherwise would be misleading.

Lots of things can happen. Honey bee problem could intensify or a massive drought could occur.
Climate change could definitely have a large impact. It may not be so much as a food shortage
as an inability of many to be able to afford food for their family. Or, as GWB said, put food
on their family.

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#39 : April 26, 2008, 11:55:42 AM

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We will be forced to adapt, and it will be painful.  People in 50 years will be living on less than half of the income they have today in real terms.  Big SUVs and pick-ups will be a thing of the past but we will still be better off than the vast majority of the population of the planet.

Incomes adjusted for inflation have declined for six years on the run, and prior to that they had only fallen two years since the WW2.  The winds of change have arrived.  The sad thing is the US was rich enough to protect future generation but we decided to piss the wealth up the wall

I agree.

Oil is often talked about as being a big issue but water is right up there as important resource.  In twenty fives years water will surpass oil as the most important resource in the Middle East and Africa.

Desalinization plants can be used but that requires a lot of energy to produce fresh water and oil is not exactly an inifinite resource.  That's the catch 22 unfortunately.




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#40 : April 26, 2008, 11:55:53 AM

The sad thing is the US was rich enough to protect future generation but we decided to piss the wealth up the wall.

Not only that, but we're so far in debt, we'll never get out.

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#41 : April 26, 2008, 11:56:12 AM

Can't believe how many doom and gloomers there seem to be in America. It must be the vast influence of the media. Who can blame you - if you average a couple of hours of Fox, CNN, and the networks - all they seem to report is how everything sucks.

 



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#42 : April 26, 2008, 11:57:07 AM

America is an empire.  We just use a modern term to describe it aka Super Power.

Food shortages will not be a problem for the U.S and anyone that says otherwise would be misleading.  The advantage the U.S. has due to its vast size  is that it covers various ecological niches from coast to coast so even if a climate shift does occur the U.S. would be able to adapt.

But for a small country that lets say is geographically located in a tropical enviroment if it is changed drastically to a desert like enviroment they have no way to adapt.   





While a long term coast to coast drought would be rare I don't think it's completely out of the question. But with the way they can, to an extent, control the weather (i.e. cloud seeding etc, etc, etc.) there should be a strong probability that crops could still be grown. But that doesn't mean the food will get to the people.

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#43 : April 26, 2008, 11:58:10 AM

I don't pay any attention to the media's opinion.   I look at the facts and I see a country in big trouble.   I'd much rather be an Australian right now.  

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#44 : April 26, 2008, 11:58:54 AM

What's stopping you from emigrating?
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