joe....im all for openness in government...i think i have a pretty good track record on that.
Ive listened to all the arguments saying 9/11 was staged....we wanted 9/11 to happen.....I even listened to the hour long video by that group saying it was detonations...... Ok...so Im a fairly informed person on this.....and even I think 9/11 while tragic and was probably preventable...there was no one in the government who wanted to happen....the detonation thing.....thats really outta left field....
As I said, it was just an example of cynicism. I'm not going to debate 911 in this thread. But I will ask you this:
Have you read/watched any of the work by the Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth? Not your normal bunch
of conspiracy theorists. Not out on left field at all.
I watched a thing on the history channel where they basically took all the arguments and theories about 9/11 and took them apart one by one....and there wasnt a single one that was remotely possible or likely. Not to start this whole debate again but....
Oh well, I guess we ARE going to go there. The History Channel? Sorry but there are plenty of structural engineers
who have examined the evidence and feel there had to be explosives and thermite. I really don't care how that
sounds and either do they. That should never affect how somebody looks at evidence. It's not about emotions
or your feelings. Of course, you can say that EVERYBODY that sees an alternative explanation for some of
911 MUST be crazy. That's the easy answer. And very common. Are these engineers and architects and
former military and government workers and plenty of other folks who question 911 all wrong? Maybe.
But just because some EXTREME folks say that there were no planes, do not mix them up with the
serious people who just look at the data and try to avoid assumptions.
Was there evidence that if acted upon could have stopped it...yeah...for sure...but hindsights 20/20.
The stuff about it being staged and faked cheapens the sacrifice of the people that died that day.
Oh, please. That argument is so tired and old. Many of the people who have serious questions
about 911 are family members of victims. In fact AE911 presented their interpretation of
the evidence on WTC 1, 2 and 7 to a group of 911 victim's family members. Trying to
find the truth never cheapens anything. Mentioning the people that died is an emotional
ploy and the kind of thing I'm talking about.
ok..back to Obama.....yeah i had breakfast with the guy.....he to me seemed a honest man. I was probably a
hillary supporter until I talked to the guy. I believe he really wants to help this country. Hey you wanna
write in and vote for Gene simmons 
or whoever.....thats cool. Its your vote....and this guy (obama) could
be just another one....but what if he isnt? What if he has a chance to do something special? Do we really
wanna piss that away and go with Bush 3.0 or CLinton 2.0?
If I write in somebody it will be somebody who has run in the primaries or has run before. Hey if
you want to keep voting for the same parties and actually think you're voting for change, have at it.
Even if Obama wants real change, I don't see the Dems or Repubs allowing him to get his platform
passed. He'll have to tow the party line and if he doesn't, nothing will get done. The Ds were
elected in 2006 to get us out of Iraq. And what have they done on that front? They're a joke
and so are the Rs. And the sooner people learn that. the better we'll be. Time for independents
or no parties. Either one will be better than this nonsense.
Its been 4 years of bush 1 8 years of clinton and going on 8 years of bush 2.0.....its been 20
friggin years since someone named clinton or bush sat in the big chair....
Yeah and Obama has surrounded himself with some people who have been part of the
nonsense for a long time. His top foreign policy guy was the foreign policy adviser to
Jimmy Carter. And that's represents change?
I dont know...i guess im just tired tonight but joe you know I respect you.....but what
will it take to prove to you that it happened? Theres mupltiple videos that were LIVE by
the way.....of 2 planes hitting the towers?
And you say you're informed on the subject? Seriously?
Where have I ever said that two planes didn't hit the towers? It's about what brought
down the towers and WTC7. Go do some reading on the ae911.com site or watch
one of their videos.
Your name says UFO joe.....what would you say if 2 Flying saucer flew over the white house.....
flew over a good part of the country....and they ahve a big friggin sign saying....YES WE ARE
ALIENS...would you say it was staged?
So we're going to bring UFOs into this? Man, you're just like a lot of the posters on here.
It's very simple. Just stick to the DATA. No need for theories. And, to top it off, you have
misread my position and assumed A LOT about what I feel happened on 911. It's
one of the worst responses I have seen on the subject. Really weak. Sorry, but it
is. No offense intended.
To answer your question, I would not assume that flying saucers are aliens. And if
you read any of my posts on UFOs, you would know that.
Sorry but your assumptions about what I feel happened on 911 and then the
UFO analogy are just so far off that I had to respond like that.
If you really want to know what serious investigators feel about what MIGHT have
happened to the towers and WTC 7, check this out:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/10025
