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#30 : May 13, 2008, 01:27:39 PM

Garcia also went out of his way to say that there are several players on Tampa Bay's team that need to be rewarded, including running back Earnest Graham, who has not participated in voluntary OTAs this offseason.

Jeff wants more money - fine, but don't bring up other player's contracts. That ain't right.

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#31 : May 13, 2008, 01:27:58 PM

If the Bucs choose to not pay Garcia they must be prepared to face the reality that Griese will be the starting QB in the near future.

But of course Griese will also ask for a pay raise once he establishes himself as the starter.

Bucs have a lot of tough choices to make and I am not sure how much longer they can hold out from paying somebody.

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#32 : May 13, 2008, 01:28:08 PM

this guy played his guts out last year and should have got a bonus 1 million but was held out the last 2 games....imo the FO looks like cheapskates right now ...in the eye of the public and also other FAS for next year....this stinks like old fish.

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#33 : May 13, 2008, 01:29:44 PM

this guy played his guts out last year and should have got a bonus 1 million but was held out the last 2 games....imo the FO looks like cheapskates right now ...in the eye of the public and also other FAS for next year....this stinks like old fish.

I agree they should pay Garcia that bonus. I just don't like the way he's going about it.


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#34 : May 13, 2008, 01:31:12 PM

Again, Derrick Brooks restructured too...but your missing my point.  These guys have already made millions upon millions.  They really don't need the money.  I'm not talking about GREED..because there are certainly players like that as well(cough Simeon Rice cough)...but its all about the money..until you reach Brady's level where you have too much of it..and it really doesn't matter if your making 10 million or 6 million

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#35 : May 13, 2008, 01:33:26 PM

It is a business.

Pay up with the rates the rest of the NFL is paying at or be left in the dust.

There is a reason why Graham and Garcia are throwing veiled threats at this point.  They want to be paid accordingly.

Bucs have to make tough choices.  Pay them, hope they play out their contracts, or roll with the players behind them.

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#36 : May 13, 2008, 01:33:30 PM

this guy played his guts out last year and should have got a bonus 1 million but was held out the last 2 games....imo the FO looks like cheapskates right now ...in the eye of the public and also other FAS for next year....this stinks like old fish.

The reason he missed his bonus was because he was injured in Week 12 and missed Weeks 13 & 14.  Don't blame it on the FO for pulling him early in Week 16 and sitting him out in Week 17.  That's SP Times B.S right there. 


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#37 : May 13, 2008, 01:33:40 PM

Derrick Brooks isn't all about the money. Do you need any more examples? One is enough. And he's done WAY more for this team than Garcia EVER will. Case closed.

Besides, what's he want more money for?or Brady. Please.

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Four-time Pro Bowl linebacker Derrick Brooks did not report and is holding out in pursuit of a contract extension.

While the club has been conducting occasional contract extension negotiations with Brooks since late last season, his decision to stay away from camp caught the Bucs by surprise for the most part. Brooks has two years remaining on a five-year, $15 million contract extension that he signed in November 1997. He is due a base salary of $3.04 million this year, and $3.75 million. Those figures would rank him fifth and tied for fifth among the league's highest-paid linebackers, respectively, in 2001 and 2002.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2001/07/29/brooks_holdout/


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#38 : May 13, 2008, 01:34:26 PM

Derrick Brooks threatened to Hold-Out before the 2001 season I believe and was rewarded with a then huge longterm contract that he has since restructered a handful of times to help the Bucs stay competitive.

These days Gaines Adams and Joey Galloway are making more money than both Derrick Brooks and Ronde Barber.

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#39 : May 13, 2008, 01:34:55 PM

It is a business.

Pay up with the rates the rest of the NFL is paying at or be left in the dust.

There is a reason why Graham and Garcia are throwing veiled threats at this point.  They want to be paid accordingly.

Bucs have to make tough choices.  Pay them, hope they play out their contracts, or roll with the players behind them.

Yes, its a business.  But there's no need to whine to the media.  Graham isn't doing that.  He's letting his agent handle it. 

There's no doubt both players deserve more.  But handle it correctly.  Graham is doing that.  Garcia is not.


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#40 : May 13, 2008, 01:34:59 PM

I do see what you're getting at - but dont think that just because "Julio Franco" Garcia hasn't made the uber-millions that others have,  that it gives him the right to publicly criticize how much he makes.   

Agree with you on Simeon - what a headache we saved there. 


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#41 : May 13, 2008, 01:35:58 PM

Derrick Brooks isn't all about the money. Do you need any more examples? One is enough. And he's done WAY more for this team than Garcia EVER will. Case closed.

Besides, what's he want more money for?or Brady. Please.

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Four-time Pro Bowl linebacker Derrick Brooks did not report and is holding out in pursuit of a contract extension.

While the club has been conducting occasional contract extension negotiations with Brooks since late last season, his decision to stay away from camp caught the Bucs by surprise for the most part. Brooks has two years remaining on a five-year, $15 million contract extension that he signed in November 1997. He is due a base salary of $3.04 million this year, and $3.75 million. Those figures would rank him fifth and tied for fifth among the league's highest-paid linebackers, respectively, in 2001 and 2002.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2001/07/29/brooks_holdout/



Great links.  Thanks.

Got any where he complained to the media about his contract situation?

I'll be waiting.


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#42 : May 13, 2008, 01:37:05 PM

The reason he missed his bonus was because he was injured in Week 12 and missed Weeks 13 & 14. Don't blame it on the FO for pulling him early in Week 16 and sitting him out in Week 17. That's SP Times B.S right there.


Exactly, the Bucs did the best thing for the team by keeping Garcia off the field and the St. Pete Times ran with a self-created BS story. Like the Bucs were/are in desperate need to save a mill here and there. Especially if it's going to piss off your starting QB. That was a complete hack job by Dr. Stroud.

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#43 : May 13, 2008, 01:37:12 PM

Graham's agent already is contacting the media to make his demands known so that doesn't make him better.

Also not attending OTA's isn't exactly helping either.

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#44 : May 13, 2008, 01:39:06 PM

Graham's agent already is contacting the media to make his demands known so that doesn't make him better.

Also not attending OTA's isn't exactly helping either.

Actually, yes it does.  Agents handle contracts.  Players play football.  Its in EG's best interest to sit out OTAs per his agent. 

I'd rather have Garcia sit out OTAs than come and complain to the media afterwards. 

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