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#45 : December 14, 2006, 04:30:56 PM

plus...if he drafts a QB...which is probably what the Glazers want.....

they will give Gruden even more years.  I mean after all, hes in it for the long hall..as they have already told him.

Fans..never seize to amaze me......you can only hope he goes with Simms..because that means hes out the following year.

If he drafts a QB, the Glazers will give him as much time as he needs til that QB develops...

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#46 : December 14, 2006, 07:22:37 PM

35 mil to spend, lets get busy.

Sign M.Schaub QB/ATL or D.Carr QB/HOU

D.Bennett WR/TEN

L.Davis OT/AZ

D.Freeney DE/IND

V.Holliday DT/MIA

C.June LB/IND

N.Clements CB/BUFF

Now the Bucs are back. 


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#47 : December 14, 2006, 09:12:39 PM

If we’re going after Freeney, which seems to be the rumor. I think we could sign him and still have plenty of cap space left over for the other Franchise caliber Free Agents.

Sign Freeney to a 7 year / $65 million dollar contract with a $15 million dollar signing bonus. Swap out Rice’s $10.1 million dollar cap hit for Freeney’s and add $2.15 million for Freeney’s prorated signing bonus. Freeney’s cap number could be around $12.25 - $13 million. That would still leave $22 million to spend, plus whoever else we cut like Phillips, Spires and Quarles adding to the pot. We could potentially have close to $25 million under the cap, WITH Freeney signed. Remember, with Rice’s $10.1 million salary, we are still $25 million under the cap!

To give Freeney, an offer he can’t refuse, we could structure Freeney’s deal to pay him $25-$30 million, the first 2 years, which would be his signing bonus plus 2 years worth of salary. The rest of the contract could be written with the back end receiving the bulk of the bloated BS numbers. That would allow us plenty of cap space in the middle years of his contract to sign the additional playmakers that we’ll need.

Our cap numbers could look something like this:

$25M available
+$7.5M (Rice cut. Minus dead cap hit)
$32.5M available
-$6M (Rookie salary pool)
$26.5M
+$9M (Spires, Phillips, Quarles cut)
$35.5M
- $13M (Freeney signed)
$22.5M available

With Freeney signed and the rookie pool paid for, that would leave over $20M to spend on valuable Free Agents, like a quality veteran QB, like Carr, instead of a band aid, a Pro Bowl corner, a Pro Bowl safety, Jerry Porter, Roman Oben, and a quality G/C like Steinbach. A sleeper Guard could be Kris Dielman from San Diego, who's young and opens holes for LT.

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#48 : December 14, 2006, 11:03:04 PM

It's all good on paper, until you realize that other teams have just as much money as we do. Then, take into account that there's only about 10-12 players in FA that are noticably better than the rest. Freeney, IF the Colts don't tag him. Adalius Thomas, IF the Ravens don't tag him. Samuel and Clements. Briggs and June. Justin Smith. London Fletcher. Ken Hamlin. The offensive side of the ball is even weaker with our own questionable Simms at the top of the QB class, mediocre RBs, lackluster WR group led by Bennett and Curtis, Steinbach the best OL available. There's almost as many teams out there with as much money as us as there will be quality FAs. This does NOT bode well for a team thats looking for a major FA overhaul in one offseason as you're suggesting. This doesn't even take into account the guys past Thomas and Freeney who might want to stay with their teams or go to a contender.

It's just too much to think that we alone would get the meat of the FA class.



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#49 : December 15, 2006, 08:31:25 AM

hey utspartan..you wouldn't happen to be named Phil Simms, Chris Simms, or Simms "Momma Dukes"; would ya? Because I don't even think they can make a good enough arguement to say their son deserves to start.....

Hey I must be popular. I have been called Mr Simms, Mrs Urban Meyer, Mrs Brackins

I guess when you actually stand up for someone you believe in it is seen as neagtive. I am NOT  a negative person and will back the person 100% and better yet when I am proven wrong I will own it



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#50 : December 15, 2006, 08:36:05 AM

plus...if he drafts a QB...which is probably what the Glazers want.....

they will give Gruden even more years. I mean after all, hes in it for the long hall..as they have already told him.

If he drafts a QB, the Glazers will give him as much time as he needs til that QB develops...

So you are saying if we take Jamarcus Russell and we end up 3-13 next year and our offense is this bad again the Glaziers will give him a pass? Dont count your chickens my friend.

You have me wrong I like Jon Gruden and just as much as I will defend Chris Simms I will defend Gruden. I guess I am one of the rare fans that are Pro Gruden/ Pro Simms.

Simms can save his job....If we were average next year with Simms but the offense was exciting again Gruden would get an extension. Right now there is NO life in the offense.

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