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: July 13, 2008, 03:14:12 PM

Since we are going to be given one side of the identity crisis of homosexuals, I thought it only fair to give another opinion on the matter besides what the Bible has to offer.  Please take a look at the link below.  A wonderful website that uses a common sense approach to homosexuality.  Rather than trying to affirm a position, it simply gives evidence that is informative that the gay community doesn't want you to hear.

Fascinating correlation between the breakdown of the family and children being raised in single parent homes as it pertains to the development of the homosexual condition.


http://www.narth.com/menus/born.html


Here is a sample from Julie Harren, Ph.D., LMFT



Genes + Brain Wiring + Prenatal Hormonal Environment = Temperament
Parents + Peers + Experiences = Environment
Temperament + Environment = Homosexual Orientation

While environmental factors may include experiences of sexual abuse or other traumatic events, a common contributor to same-sex attractions is a disruption in the development of gender identity. Gender identity refers to a person's view of his or her own gender; that is, his or her sense of masculinity or femininity. Gender identity is formed through the relationships that a child has with the same-sex parent and same-sex peers.

The process of gender identification begins approximately between age two and a half and four. For boys, it is during this phase that they begin to move from their primary attachment with the mother to seeking out a deeper attachment with the father. For males, the relationship between a boy and his father is the initial source of developing a secure gender identity. It is through the father-son relationship that a boy discovers what he needs to know about being male, including who he is as a boy, how boys walk, how they talk, how they act, and so forth. As the father spends time with the son, shows interest in the son, and gives the son affirmation and affection, the father imparts to the son a sense of masculinity. The boy begins to develop a sense of his own gender by understanding himself in relation to his father.

When the child reaches the age of five, he begins to face another task, that is, to begin to attach to same-sex peers. At this age, he starts school and begins to look to the other boys to answer the same questions that his dad has been answering. He looks to the other boys to discover how they walk, how they talk, how they play, and how he measures up in relation to them. He seeks to be included, accepted, and acknowledged. Through the relationships he forms with other boys, he continues to gain a sense of masculinity, discovering more about others boys and therefore more about himself as a boy.

During the early years of elementary school, children are not usually very interested in playing with members of the opposite sex. They desire to spend time with members of the same sex. This is a very necessary stage of development, because a person cannot be interested in the opposite sex or in others, until he or she first understands himself or herself.

Eventually, after many years of bonding with members of the same sex, the boy enters puberty. At this time he begins to turn his attention to the opposite sex. He becomes curious about the gender which is different from his own, the female gender. With the simultaneous emergence of puberty, this curiosity becomes a sexual interest and a desire for romantic connection with the opposite sex.

Conversely, for the child who will develop a homosexual orientation, this process does not happen. So, what happens in the development of gender identity that would lead a child to have same-sex attractions? Typically, for this child, there is something that prevents him from attaching to the father. Either he doesn't have a father or a father figure, or he doesn't have a father who he perceives as safe and/or welcoming. Of course, there are many children who grow up without fathers and yet do not develop a homosexual orientation. In addition, there are many children who have loving fathers, yet still become homosexually oriented. This is due to the fact that there are various factors that contribute to a homosexual orientation. Human development is very complex and includes events, as well as perceptions about the events.


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#1 : July 13, 2008, 03:18:10 PM

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Are People Born Gay??


No, people are usually crying when they come out...

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#2 : July 13, 2008, 03:29:31 PM

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No, people are usually crying when they come out...

That another problem with homosexuals..they went and stole a perfectly good word and ruined it!

Just kidding...it was funny though, you know, the crying bit.

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#3 : July 13, 2008, 04:00:21 PM

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Genes + Brain Wiring + Prenatal Hormonal Environment = Temperament
Parents + Peers + Experiences = Environment
Temperament + Environment = Homosexual Orientation

So right there in the headline, there is a biological or "born" component in sexual orientation.


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#4 : July 13, 2008, 04:01:39 PM

to answer the question... no


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#5 : July 13, 2008, 06:23:27 PM

i guess the real question is....why does anyone care?
Does what someone does in their bedroom and with who REALLY that important?

To me...well it doesnt matter what I think.....its the internet..so its a big argument but when as a country and a people going to put aside these issues and treat people like people?

We are so tied up in arguing about this...and arguing about how people get off that we have gas at 4.00 a gallon....a war where we have been for 6 years and every american...except a small few are struggling to get by?


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#6 : July 13, 2008, 05:07:05 PM

OMG, not another one of these threads!  :o [banghead]


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#7 : July 13, 2008, 06:00:39 PM

nope, they are born that way.

And it's not a condition like MS, they like the same sex, who gives a damn? It's funny when bible thumpers talk about gay people like they have a disease

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#8 : July 13, 2008, 06:08:39 PM

What someone does in the privacy of their own home has no bearing on how I treat them personally, and if they were born that way then so be it.


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#9 : July 13, 2008, 08:07:18 PM



I agree that "the real question is....why does anyone care?" Or why should anyone care?

The answer appears to be that some people, religionists mostly, are obsessed with biblical sin to the point of ignoring reality. This particular subject seems to discombobulate their minds more than any other.


I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. --Umberto Eco



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#10 : July 13, 2008, 08:40:12 PM

Are People Born Gay??

Yup.

Why would anyone choose that..... and all the drama and ridicule that comes with it?

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#11 : July 13, 2008, 09:04:12 PM

I don't believe someone is born gay. 

Not that there's anything wrong with that....



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#12 : July 13, 2008, 09:13:49 PM

So you think a guy can just wake up one day and decide he's attracted to male genitals?

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#13 : July 13, 2008, 09:14:35 PM

is anybody born a cirgarette smoker - yup why would anybody want that terrible taste, nasty smell, cancer, second hand smoke to your loved ones...



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#14 : July 13, 2008, 09:22:09 PM

is anybody born a cirgarette smoker - yup why would anybody want that terrible taste, nasty smell, cancer, second hand smoke to your loved ones...

Bad analogy. As has been posted, some men will experience a physiological response to other men, even if they've never been in any kind of relationship with one. Do people who have never smoked have a jones for cigarettes? Of course not.
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