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: October 10, 2006, 09:38:38 AM

Blaming the new coaches is an easy escape for those fans that hold NFL players in such high regard, with child like amazment that they refuse to lay blame on them for anything. Have Rice, McFarland and Spires forgotten everything Rod has taught them? Have Allen and Phillips forgotten everything Tomlin/Morris has taught them? Barber, Kelly forgotten everything Herm, Tomlin and Morris taught them? Are we to believe that these player will be benched or fined for continueing to do what the old coaches have taught them and only follow the direction of the new coaches? Are we to believe that even if that crazy idea were true Monte would allow a new asst coach to come in and change everything that has been run for 10 years? Stop blaming the coaches for the defense getting old and slow, or maybe just not having the heart anymore. I know it's hard, and some of you are in denial...Brooks is no longer the best. Rice isn't either. Barber is slow and has to grab jersey to keep from getting burned. None of them seem to remember how to tackle...McFarland always sucked. If you want to blame anyone other than the players, you have to blame the guys at the top. They gave these new asst coaches what they have to work with.

Seriously, check your self into a 12 step program if you have to. It's a fact Derrick Brooks, Ronde Barber, Simeon Rice and the gang can't play forever. Let go!!!! It's the player's fault.

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#1 : October 10, 2006, 09:40:25 AM

It's the players fault.   But it's also the coaches fault.

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#2 : October 10, 2006, 09:55:34 AM

Coaches take the bullet when their players don't do what they are told. I recall Bill Bellichek after his team gave up a big pass play saying, "There's no coverage we call where you let the guy run free down the field." That's true and I'm sure you didn't draw up a coverage to not cover a guy but your job as coaches is to make sure your player do what you want them to do.
What if they just can't do it anymore dal? That is a possibility.

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#3 : October 10, 2006, 10:32:18 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bucsdefense&prov=ap&type=lgns

Found this on yahoo. 


Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#4 : October 10, 2006, 10:51:22 AM

I think this all goes to show how much our defensive scheme relies on pressure from the D Line.


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#5 : October 10, 2006, 10:59:56 AM

they really didnt play horrible....take away the bush return......and the fumble in our own territory.....thats 14 points.....
even with the long run by deuce...they held them to a field goal....

thats really not that bad.


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#6 : October 10, 2006, 10:53:05 AM

I think this all goes to show how much our defensive scheme relies on pressure from the D Line.

Relies is an understatement. This defense is conceived around pressure from the DL.

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#7 : October 10, 2006, 11:00:48 AM

Sapp may have been a jerk to some. But his contribution to this defense was immeasurable. We need at all costs, no matter the money.....a dominating DT. We missed out on Bernard, we need to get the next guy that becomes available.

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#8 : October 10, 2006, 11:02:27 AM

they really didnt play horrible....take away the bush return......and the fumble in our own territory.....thats 14 points.....
even with the long run by deuce...they held them to a field goal....

thats really not that bad.
Are you serious?

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#9 : October 10, 2006, 11:56:46 AM

All the blame isn't going on the new coaches but it could be part of the problem. You can't expect to keep losing quality position coaches and think it's not going to affect a team. Rod was the Assistant Coach along with coaching the DL, his in-game adjustments were evident. MT's adjustments were evident. It's not to say the new coaches are garbage but it takes time to get used to how people react during live action.

Blaming just them is ludacrous but ignoring them completely is just that.

I agree with you that Monte isn't going to have guys come in and change everything the D's been doing for years, it'snot about that. It could be about second-guessing what adjustments are being made within the game. It's still shouldn't affect f-ing tackling the ball carrier though...........

Does anyone think that the Falcons would've run wild on the Bucs if Rod was here to make the adjustment earlier? Who's to know really but it does come into ones mind.......

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#10 : October 10, 2006, 01:25:50 PM

Hell, those guys have been in the system so long, Monte should just tell them what time to be at the stadium on game day. The old heads are probably schooling Jethro as we speak. It's all on the defense, they know the deal. They are underachieving. Period.Their checks still cash on payday whether they show up on the stat sheet or not(Booger,Rice,Spires). Can't wait until next year to see these guys go down the road. They have talent but are long in the tooth and are low on 'want to'.

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#11 : October 10, 2006, 02:48:39 PM

What gets me is Spires is on his last leg, Boger is a bust, and Rice has not help?  So we keep two rookies that have no experience and aren't even good on ST...who's responsible for that call? [banghead]

Without Carl Nix it feels like our running game just took a death blow to the face!


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#12 : October 10, 2006, 03:24:28 PM

Why the hell is Dewayne White still on the bench? He has MORE SACKS THAN THE REST OF THE D-LINE PUT TOGETHER!!!!!!!

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#13 : October 10, 2006, 03:26:04 PM

coaching can only do so much, its the players responsibility to go out there and make something happen, so i would have to say it would go 70-30 more on the players fauly for our recent losses

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#14 : October 10, 2006, 03:32:32 PM

He's on the bench becuase one of those sacks was a fraud where the QB fell down due to someone else's pressure and the other came  vs a ROG playing ROT for the first time. Everyone has a love affair with this kid, and he's a great story in terms of gorwing up, but he's not been able to produce consistently when he's had the chance.
This doesn't have anything to do with your love affair with Rice does it?
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